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OT - Ian Holloway slams 'obscene' Millwall fans for Jimmy Savile chants....

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  1. sku

    sku Well-Known Member

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-Savile-chants-during-victory-over-Leeds.html

    Whilst it's right that Ian Holloway speaks out over this, this type of goading has taken place within the football arena for years.

    Ask any Manchester United or Liverpool fan and they'll tell you that the most cutting terrace chants are those that reference the tragedies of Munich or Hillsborough.

    The question for me is, are we right to moralise over these matters, or should we accept that this is all part of the rich tribal nature that pervades football, albeit in very poor taste?
     
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  2. Quality Passing Rules

    Quality Passing Rules Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm...... I'm finding it hard to articulate my thoughts on this. What I might think is too far, someone else might think is ok. The 'town full of bombers' thing did get my back up personally but I seem to remember it was said to be a very small group of fans. Should we tar a whole club because of a few nutters. (In Millwall's case, because it happens so often, I say yes) I do live in the real world enough to know it won't stop though. What I would say is that is say a lot about Olli to come out and speak about it. How many managers wouldn't have mentioned it. I remember how quickly he shipped out Tyrell Forbes after his jig outside Kingston Crown Court. (Something that personally I really had a problem with at he time.)

    Edit: Just thought I'd make it clear it was Tyrell and not Olli I had a problem with.
     
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  3. westlondonlalala

    westlondonlalala Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the chant was....
    The chant was.....
    "He's one of your own,
    He's one of your owwwwnnnnn,
    Jimmy Saville,
    He's one of your own!"

    I agree with the poster on the site who says that he's heard a lot worse at football terraces...
     
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  4. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    Goes back to the old adage of 'What's said on the pitch, stays on the pitch' ................but in these days of technology and alike, it can't really stay like that anymore.
    Everyone nowadays has a mike attached.

    As distasteful as the comments may be, you can't police it, nor should you try.
     
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    Doesn't make it right <ok>
     
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  6. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    It is, as a minimum, poor taste.

    I dare say there's a fair few miscreants from W12. Does that make them one of our own?

    Most importantly, these chants could cause distress to the victims. Should not happen.
     
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    rrrrrs Well-Known Member

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    I believe there was a banner too!
     

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    rrrrrs Well-Known Member

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    Won't let me upload!
     
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    sku Well-Known Member

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    The version of the chant that I read about was broadly similar, but a whole lot more offensive.

    Without repeating it in full, here's an [unsavoury] flavour of what was supposed to have been chanted at the Leeds fans:

    'He's ****** all your.......'
     
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  10. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    If that's true, I would think that must break some law or other?
     
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    sku Well-Known Member

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    The headline caught my eye initially and I was surprised with Ian Holloway's reaction; so researched it a bit further and found a forum suggesting this more sinister chant.

    As such, I guess he has to come out and say something. As you suggest, there must be some kind of way of dealing with this, but how?

    Other than officials coming out as Ian Holloway has and shaming them into silence.

    I'm just pleased we're not playing Leeds United anytime soon.
     
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  12. Star of David Bardsley

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    Genuinely don't see the problem myself.

    I guess 'the line' is different for everyone but for me, Hillsborough etc. is a step too far but don't have a problem with a Saville song. I actually find them rather hilarious.
     
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  13. qprbeth

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    But did like on the leeds board this morning the retort

    He's one of our own
    He's one of our own
    Kellie Maloney
    He's one of our own

    Referring to boxing promoter Frank Maloney (and Millwall supporter) who is now living as a woman called Kellie and plans sex-change surgery
     
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  14. Jqpr

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    It's only a wind up , bleeding hell milwall love a wind up , just laugh it off move on , blimey .
     
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  15. Staines R's

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    Beats the usual ****e from those 'cockerny wits' when Leeds come to town...waving Turkish flags and singing about 'Turks with Knives'
     
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  16. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Witty and not offensive.
     
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  17. ForestG

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    Must be another slow news day if this is all you have to talk about!
     
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  18. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Tell us another joke then bruv.......That'll liven our day up ;)
     
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  19. ForestG

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    Sorry Staine but I cant think of any simple enough that you would understand!
     
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  20. sku

    sku Well-Known Member

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    Ok, in the absence of QPRNY offering a joke, here's a whimsical one that I like to tell:

    The CEO of Nescafe manages to arrange a meeting with the Pope at the Vatican. After receiving the papal blessing, the Nescafe official whispers,

    "Your eminence, we have an offer for you. Nescafe is prepared to donate £100 million to the church if you change the Lord's Prayer from 'Give us this day our daily bread' to 'Give us this day our daily coffee'."

    The Pope responds, "That is impossible. The Prayer is the word of the Lord, It must not be changed."

    Well," says the Nescafe man, "We anticipated your reluctance and for this reason, we will increase our offer to £300 million. All we require is that you change the Lord's Prayer from 'Give us this day our daily bread' to 'Give us this day our daily coffee'."

    Again, the Pope replies, "That, my son, is impossible. For the prayer is the word of the Lord and it must not be changed."

    Finally, the Nescafe guy says, "Your Holiness, we at Nescafe respect your adherence to your faith, but we do have one final offer. We will donate £500 million - that's half a billion - to the great Catholic church if you would only change the Lord's Prayer from 'Give us this day our daily bread' to 'Give us this day our daily coffee'. Please consider it."

    And he leaves.

    The next day the Pope convenes the College of Cardinals. "There is some Good news," he announces, "and some bad news.....

    The good news is that the Church will come into £500 million."

    "And the bad news, your Holiness?" asks a Cardinal.

    "We've lost the Hovis Account."
     
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