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OT Air strikes against Syria

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  1. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    When China no longer props up the US and European economies and absorbs their debt, breaks down their huge military and find oil then you might see something happen<laugh>

    Seriously, China owns over half of US debt<yikes>

    The UK and US economies are seriously dependent on Chinese sweatshops and slave labour as well a host of other countries.

    When Cameron went over to China with his groupies do you honestly think human rights were even discussed, not a chance.
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    With China and Russia being opposed to a US attack on Syria this is not going to go well.
     
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    China and the US are politically opposed but unfortunately the real links of economy are stronger, far stronger than political ones, there is no way the US and China are going to fall out over Syria.

    Russia are more independent economy wise from the US. But still, over Syria neither Russia or China will give a damn, they'll make a good public show though.
     
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  5. Tobes

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    The chemical weapons use means that they'll lose any real backing from those quarters.

    The best thing that can happen now, is that this is handled by UN sanction rather than by gung ho American lead unsanctioned military action.
     
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  7. Dangerously Delicious

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    One of these days we'll 'intervene' and the f*ckers will turn out to have more fire power than we were expecting and we'll be in for a horrible surprise. Western arrogance.

    All this talk about the 'regime', 'intervention', 'appropriate measures' from politicians and the media just contribute to our delusion about what is actually happening in front of our eyes, the great media war cogs start grinding into gear again. Human rights are a fundamental for every living person and there are grave problems in Syria, but here we are with them being used by another government to further their political, economic, religious/cultural posturing rather than to try and actually solve the core issues.
     
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  8. colognehornet

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    Yes ! and what the great media war cogs don't tell us is where these regimes got their chemical weapons in the first place. One of the pictures which definately wasn't to the fore during the build up to the Iraq war was that of Donald Rumsfeld embracing Saddam Hussain just after having signed a contract regarding the sale of chemical weapons to Iraq shortly before their war with Iran (Weapons which were subsequently used against Iran). Western arrogance might well prattle on about preserving democracy in the World (Meaning business as usual) and 'taking appropriate steps`, but of the 4 major exporters of weapons in the World 3 are Western : The U.S.A, Great Britain and Germany.
     
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  9. DirtyFrank

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    Exactly, wave flags, charters, ideologies, religious crusades all anyone wants. It has been, and always will be about who holds or controls the resources currently needed by one collective population or another. The rest is window dressing to be put up or down at will, or when it's convenient.

    It may have become more wheels within wheels when it went truly global but it's still the same thing.

    I mean screw regime change, non interference within one state or another. Its more window dressing: A 3 year old dying slowly from gangrene after her guts were ripped open by shrapnel from a conventional rocket would probably vote for a quick & painful gassing.

    If the majority of the worlds states were truly against chemical or biological weapons just sign up to the following treaty:

    If a state uses these weapons every state that signed up will chip in 100 million each for a bounty for the death of the leaders of said state.

    It'll will be a hell of lot less cost or collateral damage in that scenario & the job would be done quickly, usually from within the regime itself.

    I mean we know who is the states leader & military leaders. I guarantee there is a few mid ranking officers with access would do the job for half that money.....;)
     
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  10. We should just send the <badger>s
     
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    That's always your solution though isn't it. 'Military intervention' - badgers, Recession - badgers, One Direction top of the charts again - badgers.
     
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    Sorry to easy....

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  13. <badger>s are top of the food chain, they can sort any issues <laugh>

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  14. StJohn_Red_Legend

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    China and Russia are simply looking at Syria as a top customer for their military hardware. No oil there, so no point in invading really.

    China and Russia also know just how hypocritical it would be to support intervention, given their own brutal human rights records - China leads the world in state executions, and Russia has decided to step back over 100 years and make homosexuality and satirical protrayl of its political leaders illegal and punishable. Much better to back regimes that make yours look acceptable to your populace. You can always point to the regime and say "look, that is what we won't do to you (yet unless you step out of line)"
     
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  15. Dangerously Delicious

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    Skegness attractions?? F*cking hell and wtf. <laugh>

    With this badger love-in I think you'll be needing this.

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    So the yanks are taking the moral high ground over the use of chemical weapons. Didnt they get caught using white phosphorus in Iraq?
     
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    Yep,in Falluja.
     
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  18. Dangerously Delicious

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    Nevermind the US and UK's use of depleted uranium in ballistic missiles.
     
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  19. Welshred

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    Go world Police! No point doing anything unless they know exactly where these chemical weapons are produced and stored. If it was just a case of bombing these locations I'm all for it but really I think we have no business sending ground troops and enforcing a government selected by the USA on the country. Not to mention the Syrian rebels are acknowledged terrorists
     
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  20. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    Except TB, evidently...
     
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