Less said about the actual games the better. What is clear is there is something fundamentally wrong behind the scenes at the club. The possible causes are: 1 - Manager (both Sherwood and AVB). We were doing ok with Harry & Levy before. 2 - Baldini (i dunno what he does day-to-day). Similarly we were ok before him. 3 - Levy. We were ok with him and Harry but was Harry just THAT good? 4 - The players. Did we just sign a load of cack? Again, this would be down to Baldini. If Levy was to leave by the time the dust has settled and we've sorted top to bottom behind the scenes again all our expensive and supposedly good players will have left. The simple option is the manager, AGAIN. But how will it be different this time? We need a strong, experienced, respected manager to fix the dressing room. That will be expensive. We also need one willing to come here which could be hard. Why he'd ever want to come here i don't know but if we can't get Van Gaal we could try and poach Martinez from Everton. Coupled with the manager we could remove Baldini too. Personally i'd be up for ousting Baldini, Levy and Sherwood and just starting again with whatever players we have left, but who picks the new chairman, manager etc? The performances wouldn't be so galling if the squad wasn't supposedly so good, and expensive.
Short answer - we need continuity. Stop sacking managers, and give them time to perform. Man Utd (with Moyes) and Liverpool (with BR last year) did not panic and sack their managers.
They are both proven managers though. I don't think Sherwood is up to it. I'd be happy to do that with the next one. I'd even go back to AVB at the moment.
THFC is owned by ENIC. The current chairman is a 30% shareholder in ENIC. Therefore the chairman agrees to step aside, or the owners of the other 70% oust them. So what is it you want from your next chairman ?? I repeatedly read the "football side" , but what does that actually mean ?? Is it completely separate from the financial aspects (wage/transfer negotiations etc) ?? And who is on your list of candidates ??
I'm going for 1,2, and 4. Especially 1. But 4 is the one that is 100% correct. Other than Erikson (who on his day is brilliant, not consistent enough though, but I believe that will come in time)
God knows to be honest mate. At the start of the season I was certain you'd get top 4 and possibly win a cup. It's been a shambles - I feel sorry for you guys in a way. But trust me I know how you're feeling right now
Quite simply you need a top quality manager that won't take any **** and get you playing the 'Spurs Way'. And someone that can be given time to sort things out. Prime example Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool - we stuck by him and our owners understood there was no quick fix, now it seems to be paying dividends. Until then it's not going to be pretty
Thanks. This feeling is a bit like coming home for a Spurs fan , no The other issue is that the new stadium has been an utter shambles too. What the hell is happening with it? It seems to have all gone quiet. Until that happens the top 4 and Utd are just gonna pull further and further away over the next few seasons. I have that "we had our chance, and blew it" feeling.
Need to get rid of a DoF or sporting director, it doesn't work. Give the manager 100% power and then he's got no excuses when it comes to signings. AvB was boss and probably had 3-4 players signed that he didn't want.
So your saying,Paulhino,a Brazilian international,who will be playing in the world cup is a 100% cack?
I think the problem is the constant change in management and playing staff. It takes time to build a team. Sherwood has a different way of playing to AVB, who was very different to Redknapp. Players need time to "gel" (yes that word). Whilst good players can adapt enough to beat lesser teams - which Spurs have done consistently - they've struggled consistently against the the better ones. The poor results have mainly come against teams who are more settled, have one or two players of exceptional quality and have the nous to exploit the weaknesses in an uncertain side, especially defensively, where confidence has been eroded easily and mistakes made.
So another question: As sticking with a manager seems to be seen as common way to succeed does anyone see any success in our future by sticking with Sherwood?
In my view, yes. He may be a rookie, but he's been in football a a high level long enough to know what the job's about. He's played under successful managers and he has medals himself which should earn him respect from his players. As he's been given the job, he should be persevered with. What benefit would there be changing manager this summer (or next) and going into another period of transition? Give Sherwood time to work with the team. He started well both in terms of results and performances. He got Adebayor motivated and playing well. So there are positives. The drawback is that he has publicly stated that the £100M spent on players in the summer was not money well spent, so it seems inevitable that there will have to be changes in personnel and Spurs are unlikely to recoup the outlay on some of those players. Perhaps one of two changes will make a difference if he buys the right players (the same could probably be said for Utd). The defence needs confidence. Vertonghen needs re-motivating and needs a mobile centre half alongside him. Full backs have been weak defensive areas for Spurs for a long time - a quality left back is needed (just like Utd again!). If the defence is solid - which it has been until faced with the quality of Aguero or Suarez- then there is plenty of experience and talent in front. Sherwood will play 4-4-2 it seems more often than not; he needs his best front six playing together regularly.
On the manager side of things has anything really improved under Sherwood? If not then Spurs should get rid otherwise what was the point in making him boss in the first place?
Levy/ENIC to move on and sell up. Their record for the many clubs they have controlled/owned over the years have always ended in underachievement and bitterness. Nothing will change till these parasites are booted out. A revolting Sid.
Sensible stuff from Luke. People tend to look for A reason when things go wrong when more often that not it is a whole combination of errors that combine to produce the negative effect. 1. Changing Manager too often. 2. Changing philosophy from No DoF to having a DoF. 3. Changing too many players at one time. 4. Changing the team too often and not establishing a first 11. 5. Too many cooks! There are no doubt more that we don't know about. Friction behind the scenes? Scouting policy? Politics? and so on. There are no quick fixes to this but above all we need stability.
I'd agree that stability is needed, but not under Sherwood. We, like The Goons have done, need to find the right manager, give him full control of selecting and buying/selling personnel, etc. then, we might actually start getting somewhere. The problem is that I can't visualise Levy keeping out of those decisions - which means we'll probably just keep spinning wheels.
