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Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by AWAY IN BC, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. AWAY IN BC

    AWAY IN BC Well-Known Member

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    And was up at 7am for the game....Mmmmm.

    Report please..after your pub visit SENSIBLE..
     
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  2. sensiblegreeny

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    Hi AWAYINBC. Great result wasn't it.

    Where do I start. Kicked off and for the first 5 minutes it looked promising. We went onto the front foot with two, yes two strikers on the pitch. That was as good as it got in the first half for us because we quickly reverted to form. Could not string much together and the whole team looked like strangers to each other. The only shot we had was a free kick by Williams which was well saved. Wimbledon huffed and puffed as well but won everything in the air and were not troubled. People around me were musing that if we are a team of one half then hopefully this was the bad one and things could only get better.

    It didn't and we found ourselves one down due to poor marking once again. In the second half it was no better than the first. Poor passing, second to the ball almost everytime and no plan it seemed. Wimbledon were still no great shakes themselves but to be honest looked more like a team than we did. The Ref was once again pants. He booked one of their's in the first couple of minutes of the match which set the tone. He booked a few others of our's after that and to be honest they were soft. It frustrated the players on both sides. There were a couple of appeals for penalties which he missed or didn't give and I commented that we were never going to get anything from him in the box. Just to prove me wrong he gave us a penalty which in my opinion was never one. Their man supposedly brought Madjo down in the box when they were both running for the ball. If anything I thought it was a foul the other way. Needless to say their players were slightly upset. Up stepped Griffiths. Goalie saved it and it bounced a couple of yards in front of him when he couldn't hold it. Griffiths followed up and nicked it in. 1 - 1 and not particularly deserved in the 89th minute. It looked as if we had stollen a point in a poor match and display. No, we contrived to defend for the whole of the extra 4 minutes and after a deflected shot the ball looped over Cole and we were behind once more.

    No more than we deserved to be honest. Resounding boo at the final whistle from all over the ground and well deserved I'm afraid to say. That is 2 games against sides below us in the league and one point so far. Next up is Barnet and if we lose that one then sorry, Fletcher has to be on borrowed time. If he isn't, because this will be a dog fight yet again, then I can see the numbers gradually drifting away as far as the floating voters are concerned. I wish I could say we were unlucky today or that we at least played well for most of the match but that would be stretching it a tad too far.
     
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  3. Plymborn

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    Surely this assembled squad must be no worse than at least 50% of others in this league....so why are they not winning more than two games from eleven.

    The answer might be that they are leaderless.........reports today of the match would suggest they are no better than a ship without a rudder.....it cannot be allowed to go on for much longer.
     
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    SENSIBLE- thats a fairly accurate report and I agree with everything you have said except I thought Wimbledon played pretty well- or at least were first to every ball and didnt give us a chance to settle. For one the few times this season we got what we deserved-absolutely nothing. Still didnt boo though.
     
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    I didn't boo either lyndhurst as that isn't my style but I could well see why less restrained people than me did. Wimbledon were an ok side and made to look better by our inept performance. They are where they are because they aren't a good side and we will be down there with them very soon. For me there wasn't a man of the match for us. None of the players were worthy of the accolade or weren't on long enough to earn it. Best player I saw was Madjo who was on for about 15 minutes and at least looked like he wanted to be there. Why he didn't start god only knows. I read somewhere that he was supposedly late arriving so it was disciplinary to put him on the bench. Sod discipline is what I say. Get him on the pitch and kick his harris later. Cowan-Hall also looked reasonable but that is about it. Midfield non existant. Defence poor.

    I have had a look at a couple of other sites tonight and there is pretty much nobody having anything good to say about today including the total greentints normally associated with Pasoti. When some of the posters on there are moaning then you just know it had to be bad. The calls for Fletcher's head are growing day by day. I can see why even if I know Brent will ignore it all. If this carries on and he continues to have deaf ears then he will pay for it at the turnstyle in the end. I have not seen 90 minutes of football that you could call football from Argyle once this season so far. Just glimpses for short periods or at best one half. I begin to despair.
     
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    Report on Madjo being late has been mentioned on ATD....if that is the reason he was on the bench it cannot bode well for him wanting to stay...can it ?

    If that is true and Fletcher dropped him to the bench....plus more injuries before the match to important players.....what the hell is going on by dropping Madjo who has proved he is necessary.......as sensible said.......sort the lateness problem out later not weaken the team to prove a point....if that is so then it is poor management and only proves that Fletcher has got his priorities very wrong.......1pt from what should of been a possible 6pts.......doesn't bode well for next week.
     
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  7. AWAY IN BC

    AWAY IN BC Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all your comments..i will now turn my intentions to MLS and the Vancouver Whitecaps.. we are averaging 19000 in a 21000 stadium..

    Remember Kenny Cooper...he is now top scorer for the New York Red Bulls..

    Id still rather watch Argyle though with all the moaning..
     
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    Not booing either but that was a poor result especially after Wed. draw....think your right Sensible, Fletch has to be on borrowed time.
     
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    Well had a chat with my son and apparently that was abysmal, coming from a boy raised on chlorophyll thats as bad as it gets. Big month for Fletch I said November to judge him and now we are going to see if the players really want him. Becoming obvious that Houri and Young cannot boss an experienced midfield, still think they have the talent but too young, need Wotts or our green hornet back ASAP or perhaps Walton back on loan!!! Only positives I can see is Griffiths has more than a goal a game, in minutes played if my math is right, and PCH put in shift according to little mexijan anyways. Sensible if ur not hanging from the banister with your razors blunted can you give any positives?
     
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  10. sensiblegreeny

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    I'd like to give you some positives out of it mexijan I truely would. Your little one is right in the respect that Cowan-Hall did ok but any sort of good performance was very very thin on the ground.

    Cole - ok
    Berry - poor game
    Williams - poor game
    Purse - not his finest but just about ok
    Nelson - ok
    Hourihan - poor
    Young - poor
    Bahsera - poor
    MacDonald - average
    Cowan-Hall - ok but better than most
    Griffiths - average

    Subs only Madjo looked like he wanted anything.

    Fletcher - clueless (sorry but he was)

    Yesterday I doubt we would have beaten anyone. I cannot understand how they can put in a half way decent performance one match and then collapse into a shambles for the next. There is simply no consistency to anything. Apart from the lack of results that is and the good results just mask the problem for another week. Anyone remember last season. We got a few decent results and were on a high. This was followed by a couple of disasters and we were back in the doldrums once more. This season is absolutely no different to the last. Except for one huge thing of course, we aren't starting the season with a bunch of kids and in Administration. What you see is the squad and not a cobbled together bunch of trainees. We are supposed to have a better than competetive budget than the majority of the league. We have 28 players on the books yet none of them are stand out. News flash folks we are going to struggle all season long at this rate.
     
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    The reality is that we are playing in the basement league of the Football League......and on paper this team is as good as 50% of teams in this division.

    There are teams with far smaller squads and no better players doing better than Argyle on a weekly basis in this division.

    So what is going wrong with this team that is not going wrong with some other teams.

    The obvious answer is that any potential that these players have is not being realized.

    Whose fault can that be then ?

    Some say it is the nasty fans booing the players and upsetting the poor little dears........they do better away because the fans that travel are true fans who get behind the players........although the fans of the team who are playing at home are cheering on their own team it doesn't seem to matter.

    It is only recently that home fans have been showing their feelings....so why were they not doing better before that started.

    The one consistant reason through all of this is the leadership or more bluntly the manager......who is consistant in his lack of ability to do the job.....he shows no improvement over twelve months in the job and his time is up...or the fans will state their feelings by not only booing but by not coming....and James Blunt a businessman will see that the finance through the gates is evaporating......and that is his domain finance, the one thing that he understands.
     
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