Well done to the Scot Andy Murray Every time Murray loses it's "The Scot" this or that. I have been watching BBC news for quite a while today and not once has he been called a scot or scottish apart from the folks from his home town, one lady interviewed said "this is for scotland GB done well in the olympics but this is for scotland" and the beeb cut that bit on the next showing. Next up, what Murray's win will do for British Tennis
To be fair... He's Britain's No.1. Better than any tennis player that England can come up with, and surely better than Henman was, so whether he wins or loses he'll still be Britain's No.1 Part of following a sport, or a particular person is following them all the way through whether they win or lose... I get the feeling that the BBC don't quite have that attitude when it comes to Murray.
Since the current quartet of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murrary are seen as four of the greatest tennis players to have graced the game and the most competitive bunch to compete in one era, I would absolutely 100% agree that Murray is better than Henman ever was
Not even that. The fact that Murray has won a grand slam which Henman couldn't do backs it up when i say Murray is a better player than Henman was.
No Murray has, he just played for 5 hours so how did England or Britain help him with that? your point being? Just calling it like I see it, as an attempt to remove any positive identity of Scottish nationalism by calling him a brit, and it is also true they call him a scot and a brit when he loses, I just thought it funny the BBC cut the interview bit and totally refuse to refer to him being scottish when he actually achieves the grand slam. It is intentional.
Not sure how you can say that Murray is one of the greatest players ever as he simply isn't. Also Fed, Nadal and Novak are widely considered the greatest in this era and will be in the all time greatest lists but not Murray.
*cough*BULL*****cough* Until you can come up with concrete evidence, clips of commentators conspiratorially changing their references, from any year, any tournament, any timer EVER, to back up this BULL****, haud yer wheesht cos yer blethering pish. I've lived in Scotland since 1969 and it's BULL****, a myth the Jocks nurture like it was a battle against English oppression several hundred years ago. You won't be the first I've challenged to prove this bogus received idea and you won't be the last who was unable to actually prove it. While researching the entire BBC sports output you might also want to count up the number of times Scottish regional TV refers to British sport featuring Englishmen. Did you know Chris Hoy won the team race by himself? Four bikes and he rode them all to win one gold, which was half the number of medals won by GB ever. And Andy Murray is a ****, wherever he's from.
I probably worded that wrongly as I meant he is part of a very strong quartet For Murray to have one things when competing against three players of that calibre would suggest he is better than Hedman IMO
Don't want to be too pedantic, but he is British - and Scottish. Scotland is part of Britain, whether it suits their nationalism or not to recognise it. It's a geographical term, not a political one. And yes, Murray's far better than Henman.
Got any proof that he is a Scot when he loses and Brit when he wins? A couple of articles for each will persuade me. And he is a brit, the same way that anyone English (ie the entire Team GB squad pretty much) is called British when they win a gold for Team "GB" *cough* England *cough*
This. I think it speaks volumes for Murray's quality that he can win any tournament when competing against two of the greatest players of all time, and a man who is arguably currently playing better than the other two!
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I agree with that. Irishman Brendan Rodgers according to the media is ''one of the best young British managers in the game''. If he gets sacked he'll be Irish.
Where does it say that? That would be stupid. Ireland- whether north or south- is not, and has never been part of Britain. Perhaps they mean "one of the best managers in the British game"? Or perhaps they just don't know what they're talking about.
I'm one of the few people who's liked Murray for a long time simply because of the unbelievable effort and energy he puts into his game. Next time footballers/managers whinge about playing "three games in a week" point them in the direction of the top tennis players. Best part of 5 hours of physical and mental exertion the likes of which a footy player gives in a month...and that was just the final nevermind the two weeks of games before that. To get anywhere near a Grand Slam title is damn impressive given the current crop of stars in the game...Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are undoubtedly 3 of the greatest of all time and to make it even tougher, each one specialises on different surfaces. Federer is probably one of if not the greatest grass court player ever, Nadal the greatest on clay, Djokovic on hard courts so for Murray to win even one is worthy of high praise. Yes he's a miserable moaning **** but I'd rather that than some gobby, flash, sycophantic gobshite Don't be surprised by the Beebs ****ty tabloid slant on it...their standard of reporting has degenerated to gutter level over the last couple of years and expecting quality reporting from them is like expecting Murray to smile or the sun to shine in Manchester. Aint gonna happen.
Right! The "is he British or Scottish" argument regarding Murray is a nonsensical one for this reason: Murray has stated clearly that he believes you can be both. He believes he is both. Only people with agendas decide you have to be one or the other. Same goes with Brendan; or when he decides McIlroy. If THEY come out and say they are British (hold British passport, choose to represent GB&NI(well maybe not BR) at events) and Irish, then guess what? They're both. This is the never ending pigeon holing people do just to start an argument. And I'm fairly sure their "countries" aren't high on the list of people to thank for getting them where they are today and media like the BBC certainly won't make that list!
