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O/T Senna on Sky.

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  1. DMD

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    I enjoyed watching that.

    Plenty will spend more time on the planet but very few will live more.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    I watched it on Sky the other night, though I felt a bit guilty as my daughter bought me the DVD for Christmas.

    Rarely have I seen a man so driven(excuse the pun), he was undoubtedly an exceptional talent.

    In a similar vein, I watched a programme on Bill Withers recently and I was a bit blown away. He obviously wrote some brilliant songs, but to hear him interviewed was something else, the bloke's a bloody genius, always dropping in insightful observations on life, if you ever get the chance to watch 'Still Bill', then I strongly suggest you do.

    [video=youtube;vRetUqQbDc4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRetUqQbDc4[/video]
     
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  3. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Which Senna are you on about? I thought it was the legend Ayrton Senna until OLMERT mentioned songs <laugh> been meaning to watch his documentary for awhile now.

    Edit: forget that I just realised he was on about bill withers <laugh>

    What's the senna documentary like? Worth a watch?
     
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  4. Nick HCAFC

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    Great film, Ayrton is a motorsport legend, I will never forget watching his final race and the sad events that unfolded, was not a fan back then am ashamed to say but still was an awful loss and remains so.
     
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  5. Nisbet

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    Great watch the Senna film. Just think if he hadn't raced Imola after Ratzenberger had also had a fatal crash in qualifying. Most be bloody terrifying knowing you have lost control waiting for the impact, especially at that speed. You can see why they are really up on safety these days.
     
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  6. Nick HCAFC

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    The safety is ramped to the max which is a good and a bad thing because it has neutralised the racing to a large extent, nowadays they need all sorts of artificial aids for overtaking. The worst example for me was Schumi defending against Webber for his life last year, Webber just used one of the drivers aids to get by so the skilled driver can just be usurped by the touch of a button which is wrong, even if they had things like turbos in the olde days the tracks negated things like that and the best drivers like Senna could win from anywhere and get crap cars to the front.
     
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  7. EX4_Tiger

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    It's a great film, I bought it a few months back for my missus who is a massive F1 fan. Senna would have probably survived that crash had it happened in one of the more recent F1 cars. He was probably the most naturally gifted race driver ever and he was very generous with his money.
     
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    A legend amongst legends. A true sportsman.

    Not like that cheating little git Schumacher.
     
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  9. Nisbet

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    I understand what you mean with Schumi but at the same time he has the same driver aids as Webber so could have used them to keep up (or he may have already used). I'm not doubting Schumi ability but when he was winning the races his Ferrari was a far better car than the rest of the field in the same sense that Webber's RB7 is better than his Merc last year which will have given him a better chance of getting past him.

    The Senna years were purer racing but the car still played a massive part as was shown by the Renault dominance when Prost was there. In my opinion Schumi should never have come back to racing and stayed the F1 legend he was. One last point the way they prevent defending your lead is nullifying the competitive aspect as they are fazing it out, as you have to give a car width and can't be seen to move from the racing line to prevent passing.
     
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  10. Amin Arrears

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    Speaking from my experience is not terrifying at all, you don't have time for emotion in such circumstances. I'm no pro racing driver or anything like it and everyone had a different mindset but I used to participate in not so legitimate racing a couple of years ago and am a self confessed speed demon. I've flirted with death quite a few times but the closest time was probably when I went right up on 2 wheels in the rain around a sharp corner at 110mph. I just stayed calm fought it to the death, somehow managed to bring it back down onto all 4 wheels AND stay on the road. It was only when I was about 5 minutes down the road I thought how lucky it was and how close I just came to beig brown bread, it all happens so fast you don't get chance to think about anything at the time. Panic and you're dead no 2 ways about it.
     
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  11. andy payton's mullet

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    I think the car in front can also use its DRS and KERS to try to prevent being overtaken. Cars can go off the racing line onto a more defensive line, but they cannot change direction (I think) more than once to prevent being passed as that is seen as dangerous

    Something had to be done as it was becoming almost impossible to overtake, particularly on the newer circuits, when the only "passing" was done in the pits. But arguably it has gone too far and is often seen as being too easy to overtake now.

    Going back to the OP, is the film on Sky Premier this week, or was it a one off as I've not seen it yet?
     
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  12. DMD

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    I picked it up off Sky Anytime. I think it's being run on Channel 301.
     
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    They can use the KERS whenever they want (there's a maximum total time each lap), but the DRS can only be used in certain places. And in order to use the DRS they have to cross a line, usually a few corners earlier within I think it was a second of a car in front of them on the track. So with Webber going after Schumacher he was within a second and could use it, but unless Schumacher was either close enough to try overtaking or lapping somebody himself he couldn't so he'd be left defenceless.
     
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  14. Happy Tiger

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    Well lets hope if you still drive in that manner, that if you do end up dieing, you don't take some innocent bystander with you. Having attended a number of RTAs it makes me mad that people can act like such cocks on public roads with no regard for anyone else, or the repercussions of wiping a family out due to your selfishness.

    On subject, yes, the Senna movie is bloody brilliant, much as the man was. Bill W, legend, nothing else to add really.
     
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  15. andy payton's mullet

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    You're right, only the following car can use it's DRS. Schumacher could deploy his KERS to increase his speed to make it more difficult to overtake, but as I said, the changes have arguably made it too easy to overtake at times.
     
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