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O/T: Hull is ***** capital of the UK

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  1. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    The NSPCC have acquired Police information about child sex abuse which has given them figures of how many crimes of this type were committed in each Police force area last year.

    Humberside Police Force, based in Hull, reports by far the highest proportion of *****phile crimes, with eight offences taking place for every 10,000 people. By contrast, West, North and South Yorkshire all fared average compared with other Police forces, scoring between 3 and 5.5 offences per 10,000 people.

    WORST AFFECTED FIVE AREAS (offences / 10,000 residents):

    Humberside: 7.99
    Northamptonshire: 6.73
    Hampshire: 6.38
    Thames Valley: 6.01
    Dyfed-Powys: 5.68

    LEAST AFFECTED FIVE AREAS:

    Hertfordshire: 1.5
    Sussex: 1.8
    Merseyside: 2.04
    Northumbria: 2.52
    Cumbria: 2.52

    Sources:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-child-sex-attack-takes-place-20-MINUTES.html
    http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/resourcesforprofessionals/sexualabuse/statistics_wda87833.html
    Police force area population figures available from http://www.police-information.co.uk/police-directory/index.php?cat=6&subcat=29
     
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    that's horrifying how many ****s there are about.
     
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    They've also busted a child prostitution network that extended from Liverpool across Lancashire to West Yorkshire, mainly run by Muslim men it would appear.

    Ultimately, *****philia is probably as widespread a sexual deviation as any, it's just shocking how many people think it's acceptable to exploit children in that way. The whole truth is a lot more startling than those figures of convicts alone, I'll bet you.
     
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    I'd imagine the majority of *****philes are incredibly mentally ill people that need help. Most of them will be depressed for similar reasons to how closeted gays are, the difference being that, unlike gays, their sexual urges are genuinely unacceptable, and they have nowhere to turn to. I'd be interested to see the statistics on how many suicides later turned out to be *****philes.
     
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    It could well account for your gates being down if they're rounding up the Hull Whites.


    Humberside Police 'based in Hull' bit of a lazy piece of bait even by your standards.


    Child abuse is no cause for feeble point scoring on a messageboard.


    I haven't read the links, but you need to be very careful with stats as they have a habit of biting you on the arse.
    Previous stats, when analysed, showed that some excellent initiatives meant that children in this region were better informed and had easier opportunity to bring allegations forward. This meant that the types of abuse, while higher in number, where at the lower end of the spectrum, unlike the kidnap and rape in forced marriages of children for example.

    The other factor previously, was found to be the port, where non-locals returning from sex holidays bump up the local figures.

    Irrespective of where they're fom, I've no objection to my Council Tax contributing to investigations and hopefully corporal and capital punishment for the abusers and support for the innocent victims.


    Untreated, the abused can end up quite sad, bitter and twisted. Here's the number should you need it. 0800 1111. Set up by Hull folk, so it'll be decent.
     
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    Marco, some time ago I had cause to speak to a young man that was tormented by urges. He had been everywhere he could think of asking for help, but at that time he kept being told that as he'd not acted on his urges there as nothing anyone could do. I wasn't directly involved in dealing with the lad, but heard later he'd killed himself.

    No excuses for their actions and I've yet to hear of a treatment that works and leaves them alive.
     
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    The simple thing to do is remove the sexual urge from *****s. Not one eunoch has ever offended in this way. Put their tackle in a jar & watch them grow fat & docile.
     
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    There's no excuse. I just think they need putting in mental health facilities and not in prison.
     
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    I've heard that said many times, does it genuinely work in every case where sex is the motivator?

    Would it work with those the seem to be into power and abuse rather than sex?
     
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    Disagree, Marko. They won't get cured there. There is a physical cure, as per my previous post.
     
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    I wonder how many would be assessed as safe to be released into the community if their first job was always going to be babysitting for the assessors children for a year?
     
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    I'm no expert, but I understand that once you part with your balls, you are incapable of creating, which of course is the sex urge hormone. Been used for millenia. Just think of Harem guards.

    No idea if it would affect the other 'habits' you mention.
     
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    Just had a google, and lopping the bollocks off or chemical castration only offer limited success in stopping reoffending.
     
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    Well, it would be more of a mental health facility that they never come out of. Sort of a halfway house between prison and a looney bin. *****philes cannot be sufficiently isolated from society unless they act upon their urges, after which they are imprisoned, but the victim will be scarred for life. At the same time it's not fair to imprison *****philes who don't act upon their urges, as technically they have done nothing wrong and are just a tortured victim of a warped mind, but the judgemental nature of people would mean they would still get physically and mentally abused by other inmates in a prison setting.

    The whole thing surrounding *****philes is horrifying, everyone involved is a victim. There's no excuse for child abuse, but *****philes are a select group of people for whom it is impossible to achieve true happiness. They have a choice between a tortured existence of fighting off their sexual desires and thoughts - something which is incredibly tiring and a tired mind leads to anxiety, depression and potentially suicide, or castration, chemically or otherwise, which results in an emotionless existence devoid of drive and satisfaction.
     
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    It's not bait, crank; I was genuinely shocked that the county next-door to my own produces such a high level of child sex crimes. Hull's the capital of East Yorkshire and of the Humberside force, so I don't see how the title is misleading or lazy. It's undeniably true.

    Says the man who's just written: "It could well account for your gates being down if they're rounding up the Hull Whites." <doh>

    The only arse that would be bitten if they were false is the Police's. The stats are their own.

    So you think the high figures are down to people stowing kids in their car on the way back from Rotterdam?

    Sorry if that sounds flippant, but how would the port activity ramp up these stats, unless there's some sort of human trafficking angle which wouldn't be filed under 'child sex abuse'?

    For what it's worth, I think the best punishment for a *****phile is to pay for therapy and care for the kids they've damaged mentally and possibly physically, and of course to be chemically neutered.

    I've read some stuff on turning homosexuals straight, and not from the Bible-bashing freaks from the States either, from respected psychologists, and I think the same can be done for *****philes. But there needs to be a move away from the Daily Mail's "string the scum up" philosophy. Some of them may well deserve that, but there needs to be more openness so that potential offenders are given the chance to remove themselves from the cycle of guilt, self-hatred and, ultimately, either indulging their condition by abusing children or ending their own lives.

    That may sound liberal to the point that some would punish me by death for writing it, but when 1/3 of all sex crimes are directed against children, you can't pretend it's a small minority of people who all need hanging. An adult rape victim is far more likely to report the crime as well, so I bet there are tens of thousands of kids in this country who are being defiled by trusted adults without anyone else knowing about it.

    Numbers like the one you mention are also obviously important, and I'm sure there's a lot of work going on to make sure kids are increasingly aware that they can safely, anonymously get out of a tangled web of abuse from an adult.
     
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    Whitejock, I know you've got to be confidential about your calls while working for the Samaritans, but does stuff like this crop up often?
     
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    The teddy out the pram reply makes your avatar more apt. The fact you can't see why your heading's bollocks relative to the geography says much.

    As I said, it's not a subject for messageboard pissing contests, I responded in kind to show what a tit you are.



    To the others, part of the problem is that child abuse isn't just one issue. There are those with urges as we've mentioned, but there are others who perhaps don't have urges themselves but there cultural habits can be seen as child abuse by some, yet happily accepted by others, such as arranged marriages.

    So as castration doesn't appear to be a cure all, and I accept the point about keeping people locked up because they might commit a crime, what are the options? Because I could have all the sympathy in the world for their urges but I don't want one of them anywhere near my kids. Most of us take a fancy to women our own age, but still have to show restraint.
     
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    Rarely in my experience. We get loads & loads of sex calls (i.e. people jacking off whilst telling us a story), and a small percentage of these callers present as a *****phile.
     
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    This is no pissing contest. You're the only one filling your catheter tube. Feel free to actually deal with the point any time you like, or just keep sidestepping it with your crappy rhetoric like you usually do.

    The difference between *****philes and normal people is that we might take fancy to a particular person, but we can still get our physical gratification from another adult if we so wish. But even if a *****phile did that, they might still be inclined to abuse kids. The more they 'take restraint', the more they might be pushed into snapping and doing something stupid. I'd like to see your source that says castration isn't a cure "at all", becuase I'm sure it would push reoffending rates way down.

    There aren't many other options really, other than draconian stuff like electronic tagging and curfews, which I think we all know are pointless, unjust and easily circumvented. The psychological/therapy angle, if effective, could be very useful in preventing crimes of this nature. In the USA, their prisons measure whether *****philes due for release are still aroused by images of children, and if not, they're deemed safe for release into society. If there could be a sort of rehabilitation for potential offenders along the same lines, it could be an option.
     
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    Says the prick that tried to manipulate the information in the links he posted to get a baited subject header.

    Don't give it your usual **** about sidestepping either, not when you're wriggling away realising what a tit you've been again. Let's face it, if you want to **** about with figures, on that regional map it looks more likely to be the boundary at North, West and South Yorkshire leaking into the East Riding.



    Now just stop trying to defend your initial bull**** bait and get on with talking about what is a serious issue.




    I notice you mention curfews, is it still the case that most child abuse occurs in the home and with people close to the victim?

    On the sexual arousal test, are all *****philes sexually motivated? Also, the little bit I read about castration, seemed to point at not all sexual arousal involved a hard on or occurred in a way many of us would recognise.



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