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Postecoglou & Lange (& Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Next gaffer, who's your preference?

  1. Arne Slot

  2. Ruben Amorim

  3. Luis Enrique

  4. Ange Postocoglou

  5. Brendan Rodgers

  6. Graham Potter

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  1. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Try offering Nuno's terms to a really good manager and see how they react...

    ...and they'll tell you to **** off.
     
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  2. KingHotspur

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    Possibly but you’d hope they would negotiate other things so they would be confident of securing a top 6 finish. Realistically any manager who takes Spurs to a league finish 7th or lower doesn’t deserve the job anyway. Top 6 should be the bare minimum every year.
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    I'd have more respect for a manager who took his basic pay
    based on the PL table finish (each higher placing earns you
    an extra N quid) , and then get higher bonus pay based on :

    - winning the PL, or higher placing (2-5) than last season

    - UEFA tournament qualification/performance

    - winning the FA or League cup
     
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  4. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Mr Micawber's not spending sixpence above his budget on anything like transfer fees or wages in order to secure CL or EL football. He just isn't going to. Nuno would be better off asking for money to build a hotel or extreme sports centre or buy a golf course than to buy the striker or midfielders that we're in desperate need of.

    Levy's take is that as spending doesn't guarantee success, he's not going to spend a penny more than he has spare, after he's funded all of the development projects Enic are involved in. For him, it's preferable to limit the club's spend (and thereby our ambitions) by buying/loaning in 'bargains', not filling massive gaps in the squad and appointing managers who he can sack for nothing after a year...thereby keeping to the restricted budget that dropping out of the Top 6 has landed us with now.
     
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  5. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Potter still hasn’t been snapped up yet by a big club.

    Just sayin’…
     
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  6. Lovearsenalcock

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    Problem for me with this candidate is that it makes too much sense for Levy to get it over the line.
     
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  7. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    The managers that we looked at really seriously (Nuno, Fonseca, Gatusso and Conte) all had one thing in common. They were all out of work and required no compensation payment to be made. Potter's current contract runs until 2025 and is rumoured to contain a significant buy out (possibly £10m). Nuno was free to hire...and next summer, when he's failed to deliver CL football, he's free to fire, too.

    Personally, last summer, I'd have paid Potter's release in a heartbeat. He and Erik ten Hag were the candidates that made sense in every respect...except for the money. Failing to get Potter and appointing Nuno was another sporting decision that was poorly decided, based on finance. Property development is accorded 'money no object' status but we're always short of cash for the football team.

    Given that the club borrowed £650m to carry out the stadium/training ground developments, in a total spend of £1.2b so far, baulking at paying a tiny fraction of that on a coach who would stand a chance of delivering progress on the pitch and what Levy claimed was the club's 'DNA', is ****ing scandalous.
     
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  8. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    It is a shocking state of affairs that paying £10m for a manager is considered too much yet we think spending £10m on Clarke was worth the risk.
     
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  9. KingHotspur

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    Completely agree.

    Are we sure that Spurs wanted Potter though? Surely if they did then they would have paid the compensation to get their man. I can’t believe they’d not go for him if they really thought he was the one they wanted over the sake of £10million
     
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    I actually didn't believe it at first but once we actually went for Gatusso I figured anything was possible <laugh>
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I think Brighton actually wanted closer to £20m for him, sure I read reports of that being the rumoured fee but they maintained they were reluctant to let him go though, albeit everyone knows money talks.

    Should’ve paid it.

    Potter overseeing Skipp, Tanganga, Rodon, Reguilon, Emerson and Gil’s development, along with having Son and Kane at his disposal would’ve probably had fans really enjoying watching Spurs again. Instead we’ve got a guy who's a poor imitation of the guy we recently sacked and we’re being bored to death most weeks, basically praying for him to join his predecessor.
     
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    Potter's release clause wasn't £10m, it was closer to £20m
     
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  13. KingHotspur

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    Can only imagine how that would have gone, he probably would have ended up fighting with Spurs players <laugh>
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    No, we didn't go for him. I'm suggesting that a (the?) significant factor in that was because he wouldn't resign/kick up at Brighton and that we'd have to pay whatever Brighton wanted to get him (£10m?).

    There's more suggestion that we went in for ten Hag...and that he was open to making the switch but we walked away to pursue other options. The fact that he extended his contract after we sacked Mourinho was regularly mentioned, as it significantly raised the cost of appointing him. Even Ally Gold and Dan Kilpatrick, who are as close to the club as anyone in the media, were reporting a significant interest in him and the problem with compensating Ajax.

    We ended up looking at some pretty underwhelming options - Gatusso, Fonseca and Nuno. Other than being a lower level than we should have entertained, it just so happened that they were all out of work. I can't see that as coincidence.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Didn't they also express an interest in signing Winks...?

    I'm only saying...<whistle>
     
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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Him and Dele for Potter sounds like a fair deal if you ask me.
     
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    Fair enough...

    It is a shocking state of affairs that we thought paying £20m for a manager was not worth the risk when we've paid;
    1. £22m for Aurier
    2. £30m for Sissoko
    3. £27m for Soldado
    4. £24m for Paulinho
    5. £18m for Janssen
    6. £25m plus for Sessegnon
    7. £42m for Lo Celso
    6. £62m for Ndombele

    <whistle>
     
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    All of those fees were paid when we had gate receipts propping up our finances

    So far at least, no club has thought of a cash + manager deal - although the way things are going at Barca right now...
     
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    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough...

    I think it is shocking that we didn't want to risk £20m on a highly rated manager when we were prepared to risk £25m on Rodon and Doherty
    :bandit:
     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Whilst we were picking through cheap options to be our next coach, Daniel Levy was negotiating a 25 year lease on a golf course, to build another training facility for the Women's team (cough...NFL....cough)...

    https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/daniel-levy-speaks-tottenham-outline-20793780

    ...and amending and renewing the planning consents for the developments on the space to the south of the South Stand...

    https://www.football.london/tottenh...otspur-stadium-planning-applications-20822187

    There's £100m's of spend on these projects and that doesn't include the 720 homes to be built on the Goods Yard housing project, or the Printworks, which are also needing finance...

    https://www.football.london/tottenh...otspur-stadium-planning-applications-20822187

    The club has the ability to get its hands on money...it's just that its priority isn't to spend it on football.
     
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