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NP one huge mess he has inherited

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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    This I picked up from Twitter very true————

    We’ve had 2 unproven managers in the championship and backed them as much as possible. We now have a proven championship winning manager and cannot afford to back him . This club
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    There is probably only 3 teams that can truly say they have money, probably 3 more that have drips from parachutes the mainstay had virtually no income from 2020/21 and the money "gifted" has to be repaid!

    NP was fully aware of the circumstance … I do not do twatter simply because of such un thought out throwaway comments ….
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    He knew exactly what he was letting him self into.....if he didn't think he could turn it around, then shouldn't have taken the job, especially the 3 year deal after his initial time with us last season..
    If he's half the manager you say he is, then theses excuses ain't gonna wash.

    Nice try though RR but he's yet to convince me of improvements, but he still has time to sort it out..
     
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    smhbcfc Well-Known Member

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    Part of the reason for our current predicament is that we have sold our best players:
    Kodja
    Flint
    Reid
    Bryan
    Pack
    Webster
    Kelly
    Brownhill

    Also a poor decision as it turned out to sell Ayling

    With regard to Pearson he needs time to sort it out - at least another summer transfer window
     
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  5. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    SPOT ON he ain't no miracle worker.
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    The squad Pearson inherited was/is poor. To say he shouldn't have taken the job is ill judged. Until you get through the door you haven't any idea how good the squad really is.
    I also remember some saying after winning at Boro last year when Pearson was in the crowd 'that it proves what a decent squad we really have'.
    How daft does that sound now.
    The more astute and knowledgeable (well me<cheers>) said immediately it was the 'usual dead cat bounce'.
    Unless SL (if allowed ffp etc) loosens the purse strings then we are pretty certain relegation fodder.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    LJ took the job, signed the contract and got very little mercy from some on here who pointed out that he must have known what he was signing with regards to Mark Ashton and the setup, therefore went in with eyes wide open.
    Same goes for NP - he signed up for this, fully aware of the calibre of players he was inheriting and the financial position at the club regarding budget for signings.
    So far I've been surprisingly underwhelmed with NP to be honest. LJ and even DH managed to get a few wins out of those players, and although of course I want Pearson to succeed I certainly won't be blaming LJ if he doesn't - that was 2 managers, 2 seasons and 3 transfer windows ago FFS - and we were top half of the table too when LJ was sacked. We've gone backwards regarding results - which is what matters in my book - and that's despite some key players like O'Dowda and Weimann being back from long term injury and available again - who weren't available under the previous incumbent.
    NP had better find a win soon. Perhaps he should give Deano a call for some advise on how to get our lot winning games?
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    A few points there RP..
    He had over a quarter of the end of last season to see what we had and the setup.....he's not stupid, he knew exactly what he was getting into and signed a 3 year contract on the back of it.....so I'm not having that.
    I don't believe in dead cat bounce......shows those that are capable, then it's down to the coach to get it out of them and what's needed to improve.......hence why LJ & Deano was sacked..
    Can't remember over the past 5 years of being in a relegation situation......even with the rubbish players you refer to..
    With the knowledge and experience of RR's wonder manager......we should be doing much better and TBH has been underwhelming.......but hopefully our first win will change things......NP has time to sort it out
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    That's what I'm hoping for too. I cling on to the fact that many people on the various forums who have watched the games so far are saying that performances have improved despite the lack of results. Lets hope once we get going we pick up momentum. As you say; we have time - FOR NOW - only 2 games in.
     
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    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    The football is so much better to watch-just need to start winning games.

    Blackpool we should have won.

    Boro expected a loss.

    So im 2 points down on what i expected.

    Two games in -fans in meltdown-give it 10 games then see where we are.
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    You watched a different game to me then v Boro....first 10 mins and 10 mins in 2nd half we were ok..the rest was pretty dire and the passing, dreadful..IMO
     
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    I did not watch Boro game but i will be at Reading tomorrow night.
     
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    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    RR - in the bottom 6 the way you're going. I make your 10th game being away to Millwall?

    Between then and now, amongst others you've got Reading, the Jacks, us, QPR and Fulham - you'll do well to get a dozen points from the 30 on offer by your 10th game.

    Not trying to wum or score any tribal points here mate, but that could herald a serious situation given your recent past seasons when you started so well but faded later in the season.

    The only way you can fade when in the bottom 6 is to drop into the trapdoor places.
     
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    So you are saying that the football is better based on the Blackpool game then?
     
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    <laugh> The best bit is him saying that fans are knee jerking, but to base the football is so much better on one game. <laugh>
     
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    exactly two games in and were doomed-let's see after 10 :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    Don't let thosee facts get in the way of the "astute and knowledgeable" ones on here... If they say it's all LJs fault (and his 65 signings.....:emoticon-0113-sleep:emoticon-0113-sleep) then it must be....
    LJ had his squads (some still at the club) in and around the play-offs in each of his last 2 seasons, so therefore, the squad isn't as bad as some would have us believe, or, LJ was a better manager to get something out of those players than some on here ever gave him credit for. As we have seen, the more 'experienced' Pearson has yet to do the same, 13 games and counting...... There would be banners around Bristol if this was another manager presiding over this $hit$show
     
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    Can’t decide weather some of our fans are stupid impatient or both… there’s not a better man to lead us forward with what we got he’s LIMITED to what we’ve got on the pitch and limited to money. And yet we still feel like we should be right in the mix the team isn’t good enough we all know that Pearson knows that and the board knows that. Boro will be right in the mix this season and to go up there and only just lose by a thread isn’t all that bad. Patients is exactly what’s needed and finger pointing at Pearson is definitely not what we should be doing. With funds Pearson will change this **** show around. Anyone with half a brain can see that. He’s won this league before with a team he’s built and why? Because he was given the time and funds. Have faith we’re all in this together. UTC
     
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  19. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I thought you had enough on the treatment table already.......<laugh><laugh>
     
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    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    I agree the LJ years had some exciting moments but with mass signings, uncontrolled spending that's why our club has empty pockets, poor recruitment, selling key players that did make some good profit leading to sky high wages and poor, sub standard , over paid replacement , 5 years for 5 places upwards progress , there is more to running a club than lucky streaks, worrying about the length of grass, flying drones, big screens and lies about European football participation in 3 years.( That is more than NP promised in 3 years <laugh>)

    As I've mentioned before LJ's & Ashtons legacy became NP's inheritance, SL put another £70m into this club by way of shares to keep it solvent in the last 12 months,we have no money, the over paid charlatans that were stinging this club have gone, he has scraped together freebies he trusts, inexperienced academy players have been introduced, certainly players of quality from LJ days are in the squad but the majority have been unavalable due to injuries not helped by a medical department and fitness programs unfit for purpose, these have now been replaced, 1 financial transfer has taken place which has proved very successful so far.

    The results we have achieved so far have been a disappointment, the football not inspiring but the boring drudgery that had become common under both LJ & DH were far worse than the pre season and for periods during 2 league games we have played, we have improved standards, sure some selections and tactics I admit have been strange but you can't make a judgement after 2 games, most of us are waiting for 10, the one glaring shadow hanging over our development is NP's distrust of certain media characters but their job is to create print headlines and he is determined not to make them, there is a balance there that has got to be achieved

    SL sacked LJ for failing in his tasks, MA crawled out of his hole along with the rat pack and they have all gone, DH is doing ok at Stoke, we have had enormous changes at all levels, from CEO, manager, coaching and medical departments, new coaches appointed, everything is ticking over nicely, 2 weeks still to go of the transfer window who knows what might happen.

    Our club is in a new phase on the playing side, it needs time to develop, we were all told it would take 2 to 3 years, there would be hard frustrating times and decisions ahead, SL has made his choice and set his course, we have got to go with it.
     
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