So I'm back to pick at the brilliant minds of the good people on not606. My daughter has become unhappy in the part time job she does and wants to leave, she's been there about 18 months. I understand she would have to give 1 weeks notice but would rather finish immediately. What are the consequences of she just stops working there straight away? Can she give notice then go sick? Would that mean a poor reference or a refusal for a reference in the future? She's 17 so not an adult. Anything else that may be an issue?
I think but not certain: in theory it's a breach of contract, so the employer can sue her for the cost of replacement, but they rarely do. They can mention it in a reference though.
It's part time in Domino's so I doubt they'll be any legal action. Withholding pay would be her main concern.
2 weeks I read somewhere? I think asking for them to waive the notice period as she's struggling in school would probably put them on the spot a bit.
Sorry misunderstood, she would only get paid for work done anyway as it's part time. Concern was not getting paid for the last 2 weeks.
I edited to say that, as far as I know, they can only withhold the payment that relates to the notice period not worked. They have to pay for work done. I'm working from memory, as a mate walked out of a job a few years ago. He was going self employed, so didn't care about the reference. The employer just waived him off and looked for a replacement. I doubt domino's will be looking long for a replacement.
She’s got few employment rights as she’s been there for less than 2 years. She should put her resignation in & say she wants to go immediately. I doubt they’ll object & it they do, who cares? They won’t follow it up & I doubt any future employer would seek a reference from a part time pizza takeaway job.
Depends if a) she’s ever likely to want a reference, and b) she feels any moral obligation to give notice They might give her the week off in lieu of notice if she asks. Or she could just throw a teenage hissy fit in the bosses office and storm out saying “everybody hates me, you can all piss off”!
I had this with my daughter a while ago, when the noticed period she was told to give was strange. As a result I looked into it on her behalf. The bottom line is that it's probably one of the very few things in an employees favour. Notice periods are pretty much unenforceable and you can leave when you want. The employer has to prove that they have suffered a finiancial loss by an employee quitting and even having to bring temporary labour in or paying overtime to other employees won't be be considered as an actual loss. I asked one of the HR managers where I worked if this is the case and she admitted as much?
Sorry to hear that Luv. Is she bothered about the reference? If so, is she on good terms with someone like a supervisor or shift manager there who she can put down instead. As for pay, I assume she works less than 16 hrs per week. She'll probably lose that much pay. If she's that unhappy and it's affecting A Levels then it's not worth it by comparison. Make sure she does a Leaving Thread though
I just didn't bother turning up once I'd had enough of my first job...wanted to twist the minds of the people I worked with so I made sure it was a Saturday when I disappeared...their busiest day of the week.
To follow this up, I had to go on a training session a few years ago (when my company was making redundancies). One of the subjects covered was if displaced employees asked you to provide references. From memory, they have to be factual: sickness, timekeeping, general attendance, disciplinary record etc. so again I'm not sure that noticed periods would be included in a reference. The flip side is that a company can decline to provide a reference if they wish. I'm not sure any large organisation would provide much more than the minimum requirements.
Just found this on the net, hope it helps. If you have worked for your employer for one month or more, the legal minimum amount of notice youmust give is one week. Normally your employment contract will set out a longer notice period. If it does, you should give this length of notice to your employer.
Many employers won’t give more than start & leave dates plus details of the job role. As employees are legally entitled to see any negative feedback given, and anything that is even vaguely subjective could be countered by the former employee, so it’s not worth the bother. Which is why it’s always better to ask a former manager to be a referee, as opposed to the company. As if they agree & you’ve chosen to ask them, then it’s highly likely they’ll be positive about you when asked.
I’ve just remembered, I left a full time job at Sainsbury’s a few years ago, having been there about 4 months. One of the managers tried to insist that I work a full months notice, but I managed to insist that they should in fact **** off as my new job started in a fortnight’s time. No consequences ensued.
