So which user is Ryan? just so i know for future reference EDIT: just looked on the other thread...im guessing Ryan is PLT
"and JM promised that tougher action will be taken in the future on away fans in the City end. " Of course James, of course.
Hopefully when this group gets up and running, the club will held to account more (like in the real world) with follow up 'by when?' 'how?' 'measured how?' questions, otherwise they become placebo responses to damp down dissent. "JM said that new kits must be ordered in October, something that City failed to do, and was eventually done late by Ehab Allam. The club considered “hundreds” of crest options, with Assem Allam always favouring the current tiger’s head. Upon seeing some old kits from the 1970s with just that tiger head on them he plumped for that, adding the shield on. This, we were told, had to be submitted by February 1st – at which Pete Gamble, not only a marketing expert but a regular dealer with kit manufacturers, observed that most makers (included Adidas) would have been able to facilitate a late change of crest if requested." This type of thing does nothing to persuade people that the people who run the club are competent and / or honest.
So our owners have gone from nasty and vindictive to dishonest and /or incompetent. That's progress that is!
The club is run as a business. Businesses are held to account by virtue of their success (financial). If the fans (majority) were as unhappy as you continually bleat on about, this would be reflected in a major loss of earnings for the club. Therefore we can deduce that the owners are running the club in a way that the majority of fans find perfectly acceptable, otherwise they'd not be going to watch the club, wouldn't be buying merchandise and wouldn't be buying season tickets. That's how you hold a club to account. Luckily they are also ignoring the solitary but nosey whiners on internet forums. Also they are continuing to improve the way the club is run, sure they make mistakes, who doesn't, but they can at least move on from them, and push us forwards in a sustainable manner. Long may this continue. If you don't like it, stick to "supporting" the club by watching games on the internet, but for goodness sake don't stop being a keyboard warrior, you make us smile on here.
The only major loss of income that would affect his business is relegation. If you think anything we do will have a serious economic affect on his business you are mistaken. Fans account for about 7% of the clubs turnover.
What a crock of ****. I still don't believe anyone is this naive, I'm convinced you just post this nonsense to wind people up.
Happy Tiger, you have no idea, most real football fans (like me) keep going week after week whatever the club do so sadly a full house is no reflection on the clubs owners. As far as merchandise go, it's all total **** and hasn't been successfully sold for a long time. Sometimes your reasoning is beyond comprehension.
They were and quite possibly still are, if AA told James Mooney to go to the meeting and claim we'd sold 30,000 season tickets, he definitely would.
And round we go again, the famous line run like a business. Football clubs are in business and need to be run as such ( with a veiw to make a profit ). However football clubs customers ( the fans ) are not like customers of a regular business. For example shoppers who have used Asda for years do not get the name tattoo'ed on their bodies or buy overpriced merchandise with the shops name on it. If for some reason they become disenchanted with Asda they would have no qualms in switching to Tesco, Morrisons or even Lidl. For real supporters your club is for life not just the BPL or EPL whatever you called it. With some of the crap Hull City displayed in the past it's amazing anyone went and paid good money to watch it. But you know all of that.
So if the KC was empty every home game, it wouldn't matter at all to the club? If they sold zero shirts and other merch it wouldn't matter to the club? Really? So remind me, why exactly should the owner and person bankrolling the club listen to a small vocal minority about how they think things should be run? I'm not sure what's worse, internet football managers or internet accountants and businessmen. We're supposed to not believe anything our clubs owner tells us, but we're expected to believe crap from keyboard warriors about how many tickets we've sold, what the financial situation at the club is, how much we've paid for (undisclosed amounts) players?
Has there been a complete overhaul at the OSC then ? Are they actually going to represent the views of their members now ?