I'm not sure how to feel about that game...our attacking was great but the second half was abysmal, and its very annoying that we let in 4 after finally breaking the 4th goal mark yaknow? We should have won today - even if the wolves best players are fighting to attract buyers now. Fantastic game and good to see Rodgers try something different, but please not 3-4-3 again unless we keep it up all game xD We need to replace Monk too, otherwise we are going to miss Caulker big time next season. IMO, we need a new CB more than we need Siggy. What about you guys? Frustrated, entertained, something else, or all of the above?
Not frustrated, glad we tried something new. The attack was great, orlandi brilliant, but the defence was shocking. Ash should easily have cleared their second and I thought Vorm was poor.
horrible scoreline Vorm and defence were worse than poor today but still some plus points re Orlandi and at least trying something different.And in Vorms defence he's had far more good than bad in a long old first season and not many keepers have shown the same consistency over the course of a season
Vorm hasn't made many errors and won us alot of points but he had his worse game for us this season, feel he could have saved 2 of them quite easily.
true but at least they weren't all down to him but keepers always kop it when that many go in , be interesting to see-what the wolves made of it ive not looked
Heard Angel was a late withdrawal so was strange that Brendan decided to start with just three at the back, we got off to a brilliant start with Orlandi looking really sharp but after Wolves started using their wingers we really struggled. Even bringing on Taylor didn't really help as we lost control of midfield in the second half and have to say in the end we were lucky to get away with a draw. At least we are now mathematically safe but plenty for our manager to think about ahead of our game at Old Trafford.
Ive said nearly every season to my mates we need 2 or 3 goals clear to win as we are susceptible to throwing leads away. But today even after we scored 4 goals i felt we were going to lose this one ! glad we drew in the end . Man u game is gonna be very tough but no doubt we will win it after struggling with the bottom team. ?
Our central midfielders are not strong enough when the opposition play a high pressing game. They do not hold the ball up and their passing gets very ragged in these circumstances. As for our so-called defence....... Good note is that Orlandi looked good considering he has been out for so long. He is more suited to this level than that of the Championship and I hope Buck gives him a few more starts next season. I think he might have to because I don't think that Siggy will much fancy staying with us now.
we can forget about siggs and concentrate on who can replace him. brendan was totally wrong yesterday and showed wolves no respect whatsoever with his formation. He picked a side expecting it to be forgone conclusion that we were going to win because wolves were seen as being a poor side all season.....I hope he has learned a lesson yesterday that you have to show every team respect whether they are at the top or at the bottom....rodgers was guilty of complacency and was punished for it....well played wolves you should have won in the end.....
None I saw , they were poor team gifted goals by a poor swans defence, it may be a little unfair on some of the players but there is a reason why they are bottom of the premier league.
I think Fletcher is a player. He gets his goals in a struggling team, a lot of them headers and he's not a tall guy. I think he has the most headed goals in the PL which also shows a great positional sense. Jarvis is a tidy wide man. He crosses a mean ball and knows where the net is. Other than that, Edwards played well against us but then he was allowed to. Good player on his day but not consistent enough. The same applies to Doyle. On his day, an excellent striker but hasn't made the first team on a regular basis this season. Kightly is reasonable but not better than we've got. Ditto the keeper....
Fletcher wouldn't be right for us - we don't do headers by and large. Jarvis is a very decent player but probably wouldn't start for us what with Dyer, Sinclair and Routledge.
Siggy won't stay with us because if one bad game, lol. Blame Rogers this, blame Rogers that. YOU wanted him to try something new and he did, make your sodding minds up. As i said before, had we won 4-0 you'd be praising him no end. Our DEFENSE let us down, not brendan.
Of course if we'd won we'd be praising him, as we have done often in the past. And when we lose we dissect the game, analyse the reasons and put forward our views and criticism if we feel it is warranted. That's the whole point of this forum, to debate matters affecting our club on and off the pitch. Yesterday was a day for criticism and it was damned well deserved for all the reasons that have been documented on this forum. Criticism doesn't imply that we want to sack the manager or take delight in slagging off the players. We would all far rather be singing their praises which we have often done this season. The facts are that Buck got his formation wrong and he got his team selection wrong - Monk shouldn't have been within a country mile of that set up for a start. He's been struggling even in a familiar formation. Yes, the defence was terrible but so was our midfield in the second half. When Wolves applied the pressure they just disappeared as a cohesive attacking unit and didn't even have the legs to fall back and help the defence. They couldn't win the ball and they couldn't keep it, so we were faced with wave after wave of attacks. Make no mistake, we were absolutely battered by a team that had nothing to play for but pride. Some wanted Buck to experiment, I didn't. With £800k+ at stake for every place, imo it was too expensive a gamble - £2.5 million for three places which is money we really need. The time to experiment is during the pre-season friendlies when the squad for the new season has been finalised. Then you know the players you will have at your disposal so you can find out what they can and cannot do without risking a penny. What on earth was the point of messing about with Monk and Caulker at the back? Monk is hardly likely to feature next season and we don't even know if Caulker is going to be with us!! A really useful experiment that. As for Siggy, it wasn't this game in isolation because we had a horror show at QPR as well. He is only human and though he might want to play for us, he will surely be questioning the wisdom of doing so if we are likely to struggle like this next season. He might well be starting to realise the limitations of the players around him in comparison with those at other bidding clubs, who would also pay him far more money than we can afford. No brainer, really.
I agree that monk shouldn't have featured, but the rest I agreed with buck. We tried something new, it worked, but then failed. Had Taylor, ash and caulks played we would have won i think.
Ivor sums it up pretty well for me. Caulks got crucified playing full back. What was the point when he is on Loan ? Monk, love him but surely its clear he create doubt amongst our defence not stability? It used to be that he always brought out the best in ash,not anymore! Ash was poor as well but i cant help but feel that our defenders always have one eye on monks lack of pace and tend to lose focus on their own Jobs. Wolves embarresed us and it was a poor selection that gave them hope, we didnt snuff them out and control the game at 3-0 instead we became big headed and thought it was going to be easy. A lesson learned? Probably not! There could have been much to build off if buck had decided to change sooner, i put this game down to us,manager included being arrogant and not showing the correct amount of respect. Orlandi was awesome ! The 2 prem games he has featured in he has done really well,looks comfortablle at this level. The rest were on the beach ! I am annoyed with the selection but not the formation, but as said above why take chances when There is still money to be Made and we wernt 100% safe? Arrogance i beleive. A strange game that Asked more questions than gave answers, good points were that every game we play this last few months reduces brendens status and some of the players too, it means we look more likelydende to keep our players! I have never Beleived the press hype but its quite Nice to know the bu ble has burst enough for us to start flying under the radar again! For that reason alone the players ego's need to take some credit Throw in the press darling rodgers and it makes the whole club Think some so sobering thoughts. Out played by wolves at home! Back to basics boys please
brendan didn't not try something different at all, he thought the points were in the bag and we would be in the top half by 5pm.......two games left and he changed a winning formula...Why??? it could not be for the reason of seeing if it could work as some of those players wont be with us next season....It was all down to complacency by brendan and his total lack of respect for wolves......and it has cost us over a million quid....
