The board made it clear that they want us to stay in the local area, it seemed likely that the Unigate dairy site between the A40 and Wood Lane tube would be the likely site. Not anymore!!! The owners have slapped a £225 million price tag on the site. http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/lo...chelsea-dealt-new-ground-blow-82029-30159578/
There seems to be a dichotomy. The council want us to stay in the area and yet this article suggests we wouldn't be able to persuade them even if we could afford it. Ultimately, I think we may be Heading West...
That's just absolutely crazy. If H&F council really want to keep us in the borough then they're got a funny way of showing it! Just a thought, if the Park Club site is a genuine prospect for the training ground (which I have my doubts about personally), then it would certainly be big enough for a new stadium instead.
Could be a load of old paper talk or QPR have money, need a new ground, people own ground put up price. I wouldn't worry too much about that artical and i would just listen to the QPR people who have a better insight in these matters.
This made me laugh. Chelsea's new ground http://twitter.com/#!/sjr66qpr/status/160322572918075393/photo/1
I think moving west would be better, an area with an a bigger income and also easier for fans to get too. It seems all the kids in white city support arsenal anyway.
Sadly I'm not so sure about that. The bigger issue here is the attitude of the council rather than some property speculator upping the ante. This situation has been going on for 20 years or more in one form or another and H&M have made it plain on every occasion that they do not support the sale of existing stadium land for housing and vice versa. Fulham have tried very hard but have been unable to move. Phil Beard and co are newbies in all this and have the usual businessman's gung ho approach to getting projects progressed but local councils have no such imperative and cannot be bought and sold. For the long term I personally think this area is equally as important to our future as a club than getting the right playing staff. Without the capacity to expand gates as well as TV rights the grand project just doesn't work.
Sort of agree with some of that, but: i cannot agree there, TF,AB,PB and the rest of the backing team are good businessman and will do things properly. MH said in many interviews that he came to QPR because of ambition (money training ground, new stadium) and i don't think they were 'spinning a yarn'. They wouldn't say this unless they had some plans in place. We know the club have spoken to H&F council on this matter and various other people. That's why i think the artical is rubbish and won't worry about.
While I agree that a new stadium is vital to the progression of the club, I agree with Ellers that our astute business owners wouldn't be talking the project up if it was dead in the water. MH must have been persuaded it was a runner too - can't see him satisfied with the stadium at LR for long
Pretty disgraceful thread this. Itâs all just This all just speculation and negative speculation at that. Negative atmosphere creeping into this club and that will make it harder to climb the table by making it harder for players to perform on the pitch and this will make it harder to attract the pllayers we want. I could practically see some of the players shrinking into their shells over the last few games and part of that is from the crowd. Lots of moans and groans are exaggerated, unnecessary and unjustified and this type of thread reflects that behaviour. QPAAAAAGH you say that Phil Beard doesnât know how to handle councils well you couldnât be more wrong. He was heavily involved in the Olympic bid and this involved getting many projects passed. I know for a fact that he still has very good relationships with people at the GLA from his time on the Olympic bid and any major projects in London need the okay from the GLA. Phil Beard has been brought on to make this a multi-purpose venue. Is common knowledge that our new ground will be the West London O2 with a football pitch. My money is on us staying in the area more to stay close to Westfield than simply for nostalgic reasons. However the prospect of Crossrail opens up the possibility of a far cheaper but still easily accessible site further West. Weâve got a very rich board with big plans for the club. League position means its not going to be smooth sailing but have faith and donât hinder any progress by being needlessly negative.
In the olden days, the player/manager/coach/chairman/tea lady Ron Noades (I think thats his name(I dont do google)) wanted to purchase Western International Market in Cranford/Hayes for Brentford FC. Its certainly big enough, literally just off J3/M4 so its close to the M25 and Heathrow (if you're flying in) the only problem here is, there's no nearby rail or tube stop. Just thought I'd chuck that in.
To be fair I didn't say that Beard had no experience of dealing with councils just that he was new to our local situation. Stratford would have been falling over themselves to get an unused industrial site revamped for the olympic stadium. A very different situation from that in H&F where there have 3 PL clubs all looking to grow, where the council have set their stall out on this issue very clearly many times before and where land is at an absolute premium. And I find the suggestion that we are giving the owners extra headaches in this area by discusiing things on here laughable frankly.
Peter Damage, think you were overstating your case when you called discussion over planning issues "pretty disgraceful". What is pretty disgraceful is not supporting the team on the pitch, something I doubt anyone on this board is guilty of.
Same here, discussing it has no effect at all. I think the clubs should move out of the H&F council area to another place more willing to help. They should be desperate for the clubs to stay because the fans spend lots of money in the surrounding area.
QPAAAAAGH you said "Phil Beard and co are newbies in all this and have the usual businessman's gung ho approach to getting projects progressed but local councils have no such imperative and cannot be bought and sold". So I pointed out that Phil Beard is not a newbie. Councils do what is best for the community. Provided the stadium is of a size that the transport structure can handle then there are no problems. And contrary to what you alluded to about being bought and sold. You would be amazed what a bit of investment in the local area or provision for affordable housing in the site or a redeveloped Loftus road could do to make things easier. Even without that 30,000 people will come in to the area spending cash in local shops, pubs and restaurants once a fortnight so they wonât be to upset about that. No part of what I said was concerned with giving âthe owners headachesâ. I am more concerned with any potential effect on players. This thread was ill-informed and unnecessarily negative and there is no benefit in drilling that into the subconscious of hundreds of Rangers fans the day before our biggest game of the season. Like any fan I have been frustrated with our recent performances but there is a nervousness amongst the fans and zero tolerance to any little error on the pitch. I believe this has contributed to players shying away and not wanting the ball and offering themselves for passes as much. This thread would have been very differently worded had we been sitting in 9th place. I believe that There is a real correlation between the tone of this thread and the tone in the ground at the moment.
