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No replays on the big screen....

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by seabreeze, Oct 20, 2015.

  1. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    .....so refs can be shielded from bad calls.
    Most professional sports have turned to video replays to change bad calls or non calls by refs .
    Football fans can't even watch the wrong call or non call , little on get satisfaction from the proper call within a review. Football lives in "The Stone Age " within professional sports imo
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    It was played 3 times and the rule state you cant do that.....A fine looks to be on its way to the club and we will have to accept we were wrong even though the club said it was human error.....
     
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  3. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I'm not suggesting we didn't break a rule, only that the rule coincides with everything football , cover up mistakes , errors and wrongdoings by any tactic. to save face of people that run the game. Football stands alone in not letting a home crowd watch a bonehead error by a ref .
     
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    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    The ref saw it and waved play on so he deemed it acceptable , , If Hughes is moaning which he has been because he feels it highlights the fact that one of his players was at least reckless then there could be a retrospective punishment beckoning (unlikely I know).
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    It entices unrest and that's the reason. Only the 4th official should be able to see replays and that will stop any unrest and possible trouble. It should not be shown on the big screen once let alone 3 times. The ref had made his decision and that's final whether it goes for you or against you..there is no benefit showing replays at live matches....
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    So why not let everyone(like all other sports in the world) see how bad the call was .
    As for retrospect punishment , say a guy deserves a red card and the refs misses it.After the game they determine that player deserves a red card so he gets a suspension, his team plays with eleven players during that suspension whereas they should have been down to ten when it actually happened
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    It creates unrest in all sports dai , but all other sports allow you to see it while you sit in your seat....that's a cop out dai
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    But why have it at all ? the decision has been made by the ref and wont be changed. What is the point of showing it other than to antagonize the fans. Nothing will change and the 4th official will have evidence who at the end of the day cant change anything. Refs are human and will call it wrong but you go into the match accepting the ref's decision is final. A report goes in after every match and it will be pointed out to the ref where he made the wrong decision and he will be warned if he makes to many bad calls and in some cases relegated to a lower level. But at the end of the day there is no point on putting it on the big screen as nothing will change......3 times is over the top and no replays should be shown after the ref has made his decision as that will be dealt with after the match....
     
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    Both valid arguments to be fair. With the current state that football is in, it is worthless to show the replays. But I am in the camp that feels that football is a way behind by not allowing officials to officiate off television footage. The fourth official should be able to see the replay and tell the referee that a bookable/sending off offence has been committed during the game via a microphone without stopping the game.

    The rugby world cup has done well (on the whole) by showing that a TMO can rule on foul play without even stopping the match. Albeit they still have flaws/limitations in rugby as shown by the Scotland vs Australia fiasco, but people are being penalised in-match for offences which is the fairest solution. If someone deserves a booking/red card, it's worthless to the team they were playing if the ban/punishment is retrospectively awarded after the match.

    The fourth official should be more like a TMO. Instead, he's more like a night club bouncer standing in between two old men not throwing punches at each other.
     
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    Agree the 4th official should be in contact with the ref and be able to over rule through video evidence that is available in an instant these days.....The ref has the hardest job on the pitch and its about time he had help from the 4th official...
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I beg to differ about it being worthless to show the replays to the fans for two reasons.First , it will stop refs from being "Casual" about calls because all will know he was totally off on the call.Second , if enough pressure is put on mounting bad calls , toward refs , long time coming changes will happen.
     
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    If, and that sadly seems to be a massive "if", FIFA gets a shakeup then we might see some progress on bringing officiating into the 21st century. Otherwise the dinosaurs still rule.
     
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    Each to their own, I guess. But it's my view that showing replays of contentious calls when the referee has no power to go back and overrule himself seems rather pointless. It stirred up a crowd of 20,000 people against the ref. If you just showed replays of all bad calls, you'd start seeing red cards given out willy nilly as referees will be scared to miss anything in case they are vindicated on the big screen. Referees are human, and it doesn't matter what human you give the whistle to, they will make mistakes and bad calls. In my opinion, the easiest way to quickly help them is to give the fourth official the power to watch the replays and tell the referee to bring the play back if required. That way everyone can be happy that they have the right decision. Not scaring the referees into making equally bad decisions the other way for fear of missing something that could be shown on the big screen in a minutes' time.

    I think there's enough pressure on bad calls as it is. But we need changes that help the referees, not changes that scare them from/into making decisions.
     
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    Until the 4th referee with the advantage of instant replay can over rule the match ref's decision then replays on the big screen do nothing but stir up trouble and should not be use ..If we get fined for showing it 3 times then we deserve it.....
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I watched the Toronto Blue Jay baseball game last night , looks like they will come up short for a trip to the World Series.There was a play where Toronto was in the field and a Kansas City playerwas trying to reach second base.he slid in and appeared to be safe.The second baseman waved to the Toronto manager , the manager went to the phone to get there replay man to look at the play.He put the phone done and told the umpire he would like to use one of his reviews.apparently the KC players foot came up off the bag while the tag was still applied.Before the umpires could even get there headphones on there came a roar from the 60,000 bluejay fand because they and the blue jay players were looking at the big screen and clearly seen the wrong call by the umpire.The bluejays all ran to there bench to get ready to bat.By the time the umpires took there headphones off to announce the error by the umpire , the bluejays were already sitting on there bench for 30seconds .I watch a bit of baseball and can tell you this , since the video replay challenge came into effect , you see extremely focused umpires, more focused than before.For those who know nothing about baseball , I apologize
     
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