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New season, same old story

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Jager, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Don't like Planet Swans very much, but got this through Newsnow as a link, it pretty much sums it for me:

    http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/43527/

    Some things never change when the football season comes around and one that we should be well used to by now is football pundits predicting a season of struggle for the Swans and impending relegation about to happen yet again at the Liberty.

    It happened when we first arrived at this level in 2011 and for 2011 you can now read 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 as pundits queue up to take what seems on the outside to be the "easy" option and predict that we will be relegated.

    The reason I say easy is that most football pundits look at money spent and equate it to guaranteed success. What the great 'educated' who comment on the game do not realise is that this is not a mantra that is needed to stay in this division and if it was then Newcastle, QPR and Cardiff amongst others would still be here and not finding themselves playing second tier football.

    You can also look at Portsmouth and Leeds as two classic examples of where the spending went wrong and of course a very well publicised example last season was Bolton Wanderers.

    What you need to stay in this division is a good team spirit, players who want to be at this level and appreciate the chances that they have and overall just that unnerving ability to upset the big boys.

    What the likes of Robbie Savage and Jamie Carragher seem to have overlooked is that in 5 years at this level we are yet to finish lower than 12th and consistently pull off at least 2/3 results every season (even last term when we struggled more than we had done in previous years) that nobody expects us to pull off (remember we beat Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool last time around)

    So why does it keep on happening? Some of it may just be wishful thinking but some of it is just plain ignorance. We sell Ashley Williams - a 31 year old centre half for £12m - and we are doomed. We sell Andre Ayew - who never fully fitted into our system - for £20m and we are doomed. In their place come a man capped 24 times for Spain and a club record signing. Williams' replacement was already here and of course we added Leroy Fer to the side who added much to us at the back end of last season.

    Add to that a four year contract for Gylfi and two of the quickest wingers in the league and there is nothing really to suggest that we will go down this season.

    Carragher and Savage are not alone as Paul Merson and Martin Keown both predict struggles for us as well and they won't be alone in thinking that we will struggle.

    Of course they could be right come the end of the season - I guess if you predict the same thing often enough then eventually it will come true - but for me there will continue to be 3 worse teams than us in this division and being the underdog has never done us any harm in the past, I don't see why it will now.

    Time will tell but for me they are wrong and maybe one day they will realise more what they are looking at rather than just looking topline at what they think is happening.
     
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    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    <applause>
     
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    Good post Jager. It's galling to think that these guys get paid incredible amounts of dosh for their 'brilliant' punditry.
     
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  4. DragonPhilljack

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    Those three haven't got a brain cell between them, as stupid as stupid gets, come end of this season, all the Jack Army should tweet the three nuggets and congratulate them on being prize bananas...............<laugh>
     
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  5. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    So, season on season, the pundits tip The Swans' for relegation, yet the lowest they have finished is 12th.
    Good job these guys aren't paid on results then. They'd starve.
    How exactly does their seemingly negative approach towards The Swans' impinge on your life ?


    Just imagine a different scenario, where the pundits, ALL OF THEM, tip The Swans' to be P.L. Champions.
    At the end of the season, however, The Swans' actually get relegated.
    Is that a more acceptable performance by the pundits ?
    Would your lives have been enhanced by their initial forecast ?

    All this forecasting is just nonsense. If it causes you pain, just ignore them. I do, it's quite easy.
     
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  6. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    I just laugh at it to be honest, but you'd think these pundits would research the subject they get paid for, some do a balanced process of what is likely to happen. The three promoted teams appear to be very weak imo, I'm thinking that two of them are going back down, boro the only survivor and Sunderland joining them
     
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    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    Laughter is usually the best policy when confronted with something/someone that ails you.

    It's never failed me down the years, and makes this Forum a better place.

    I don't spend much time contemplating who will go down , as long as The Swans' don't.
     
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    Jager Well-Known Member

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    I would say Hull are odds on as they have no manager and 14 days left of this transfer window, burnley are toothless and Sunderland are likely to continue where they left off last season.

    For me there are far worse teams in the premier league and the chances are they will be below come May. I'm not saying we are to good to go down, but I am sure we are a stronger team despite Ayew and Williams leaving us.
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    To be partially fair to these " Predicters " , this season , I don't think we even know what we have ....There seems to be a quiet confidence with the players and coach ......and me .
     
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    Robbie "the nob" Savage has stuck his oar in as well saying we are relegated and losing Ash is the main reason.
     
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  11. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

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    Punditry, in the UK, is the simplest job on the planet. All you have to do to get paid is open and close your mouth and let out some grunts and squeaks. They are just TV's version of WUMs and are as pointless as that assistant referee who stands behind the goal with his eyes closed while listening to Euro Pop on his ipod.
     
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  12. DragonPhilljack

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    Sounds like a job for Dai!........... <laugh>
     
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