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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by suker_suker, Apr 5, 2014.

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Should we start looking for a new manager?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. suker_suker

    suker_suker Well-Known Member

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    Should We start Looking For A New Manager?

    I took the last poll to mean 'Should Wenger Stay?' and voted 'no.' Now it has been changed to 'Should Wenger Go?

    My poll asks this question because obviously we shouldn't get rid of Wenger without a suitable replacement lined up. Assuming we did have one, would you want Wenger to be replaced after this season?
     
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  2. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I've voted no but only because of your last line. I don't think we have a suitable replacement lined up and don't think we will get the right guy if we try to replace him in the summer. It won't solve our problems to give him the boot and just grab another manager hoping they can do well.

    I do think we need to be looking for our next manager but I think it's a process that should be done over the next couple of seasons. I think we should make a short list begin some quiet discussions and enquiries and then watch the candidates over the next couple of seasons to see how they are performing. In the meantime I expect wenger to keep us stable near the top, add some quality, hopefully add a trophy or two and then leave the club in a strong position for his successor.

    Everything doesn't have to be immediate and being impatient with this decision could be a huge mistake and set us up for a few seasons like Liverpool have had or utd are having now. It's important we get the right guy and personally I hope the club take the time to find the best person for the job.
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    This is a bit of an idealistic thread and therefore it's a leading question. It's a bit like saying if Suarez wanted to join us and Liverpool would let him leave would you sign him ? As afcftw says, it's not really going to happen overnight and getting the wrong person in could be catastrophic.

    For all of Wenger's foibles, he is still one of the best and it's going to take a very special manager to improve on what he does. If we're able to secure the services of that person then of course we should take him on as Wenger isn't going to be here forever, but I think it needs to be done properly and I think the club will do that rather than make any rash or knee jerk decisions.
     
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  4. winifred122

    winifred122 Well-Known Member

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    I think that we should start looking for a new manager, but not necessarily for the end of the season. It smacks of impatience and that will lead to bad decisions.
     
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  5. Not PC enough

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    theres that knee jerk comment again.

    How long is 8 years ?
    Thats some knee jerk.

    Impatience ?

    I think we have been very patient .
    Its starting to wear thin .

    I voted yes ...most definitely .

    Its only because Ferguson retired that we are even going to achieve that magical 4th place trophy .
     
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  6. I am Gooner

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    I think we need to wait and see what wenger does in the transfer window, but he has to do it early. If we have a decent striker and DM by the end of July I'm prepared to take that as a sign hes prepared to change his ways, but if we get the usual "everything happens on the last day of the transfer window" bollocks he can go.
     
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  7. Not PC enough

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    thats been done to death..........

    to be honest .

    and as has been said , i truly believe its not the players .

    Look at what some of the lesser teams do with lesser players.

    Everton play good consistent football week in week out , with much fewer resources than us.

    Because their manager is quick to adapt and tactically superior .

    Look at it from the other point of view , Arsene has had some top class players in the squad AFTER 2005 and achieved NOTHING with them


    Its not the orchestra , its the conductor.
     
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  8. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    To say wenger has achieved nothing since the fa cup win is just plain stupidity on your behalf :)
     
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  9. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    But I agree it isn't a case of let's wait and see what he does. He is nearing the end of his career as a football manager and as such we need to be thinking about how we move forwards from him. But getting rid of him at the end of the season isn't the answer.

    Wenger has shown he can keep us near the top and while he has his last hurrah over the next couple of seasons we can work on making sure we get the right person in to replace him.
     
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  11. Not PC enough

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    tell us what he has achieved .

    see if you can do it without using the phrase " 4th place "
     
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  12. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    I would say it's an achievment to get to the European Cup final but obviously you don't
     
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  13. afcftw

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    In that time period he has overseen the move to our new stadium and kept us near the top of the table and in the champions league through the entire period of upgrading our club and creating a sustainable future.

    In that time we have had the pleasure of competing in a handful of cup finals and semi finals in every competition and running the league close. We've also been able to enjoy watching some beautiful football and some amazing players.

    He has achieved a level of stability that most clubs can only dream of attaining.

    And when he leaves he will leave the new manager a capable squad, financial muscle and a great stadium. A brilliant platform to build on.

    Not everything is measured in silverware or hardly anyone has achieved anything in football.

    I'm not saying he couldn't have achieved more, but to suggest he has achieved nothing in the last eight years is totally over the top.
     
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  14. afcftw

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    Edit: time on my ipad confused me.
     
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  15. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say 4th place once :)
     
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  16. Not PC enough

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    2005/6 yeah

    i guess some people expectations have plummeted since then aint they .

    When Arsene himself says that 4th place is a trophy .

    You know the state of the club and its comfort zone.

    I wonder if he would have said that after the invincibles season , if someone had said " Arsene if you dont win a single thing for the next 9 years but get 4th place , will you consider that a success? "

    He would have said, i bet , the same as Maureen , " if i dont win a single thing for the next 5 years , i will be very very dissapointed. "

    Now , what else can he say but that European football is itself a success.

    Justifies his employment dont it. ?
     
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  17. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    In 2006 it was seen as an achievement getting to the cup final. It's not just looking back and saying it was an achievement, it was an achievement at the time.
     
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  18. Not PC enough

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    If Birmingham City can get some silver , but Arsenal under this tactical genius cant .... your arguement is flawed and always will be.

    Every other team in the top 4 has won SOMETHING .


    even these teams have managed to get some silver with their resources

    Birmingham City
    Wigan
    Portsmouth
    Liverpool
    Tottenham Hotspur

    and of course , these clubs have won some of the biggest silver you can get multiple times.

    Chelsea
    Man City
    Manure

    while we have gone out of these competitions to giants LIke Bradford City and Blackburn Rovers Birmingham City .

    His failures are just as important to remember as his 4th place finishes.
     
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  19. Not PC enough

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    what kind of achievement is it that sees you bottle it against a team ( Birmingham City )that was then relegated they were so cr@p.

    Embarrassing .

    you keep talking about 2006 .

    this is 2014......are we the new Liverpool .
     
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  20. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    In 2006 we played barca in the cl final... Wtf are you going on about...
     
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