Now I am not looking for a row but while running my eye over some statistics I found this rather odd. As we all know, education of our children is one of the most important things for a society. What happens when there is a lop sided system? What happens when one section are getting a fantastic education while the other section seem to be being let down? Bellow is a copy and paste job that should shock us all. The most important part for me is the section that I have highlighted. Surely that cannot be correct one would think? Unfortunately it is. ------------------------------------ More than half the children educated in Northern Irelandâs schools are Catholic, figures have revealed. Catholic pupils now account for 51% of places while Protestants make up 37% . The other 12% are pupils of other Christian denominations, non-Christian, no religion and whose religion has not been disclosed. It comes after TUV leader Jim Allister yesterday claimed that the provinceâs universities were âfailing to attract young Protestantsâ because of a âchill factorâ. There are now 43,000 more Catholic pupils in our schools â from nursery to sixth form â than Protestants. Figures obtained by the Belfast Telegraph show that of Northern Ireland students attending university, 35% are Protestants, 49% are Catholics and 16% are others. Statistics also show that just 17% of pupils from controlled secondary schools achieve at least two A-levels, which are mandatory for entrance to university, compared to 33% of pupils from Catholic. That is a ratio of 1:2. A spokesman for University of Ulster said: âAccess to the |universities are based on performance at A-level and if students meet the entrance criteria, it is not based on religion.â The question has to be, is it the fault of the schools or of the parents and community?
classic after effects of the divide and rule principle some will argue and mock but look at all examples india/pakistan etc
I know what you are saying but how does that explain the fact that Catholic pupils in NI are twice as likely as Protestant pupils to score the results required to enter university?
Everyone must take responsibility for the education of our youth. There is only so much schools/parents/the community can do by themselves so they must all work together.
I think Catholic parents/grandparents know what it was like in the 60s and 70s for Catholic people in NI and instill a strong work ethic in their children so that they have better lives than they had.
depends what was reinforced as you grew up and what institutions existed For example catholic schools in england get better results than their non religious counter parts. some of this is down to the money that is invested and the structures that have been set up the allowing and support of these structures is key
They don't have the shipyard and all the other major industries to waltz into either with a slap on the back from the OO. You are 100% correct in your summing up btw.
meant church tbh, hence the english school example if structures exist, kids are less likely to feel unconfident speaking as an minority, my parents were BIG on education, but it was when i went to a institutions where I had my own kind that confidence set in
@fAN You don't understand.It's like me commentating on the Jewish and Palestine question on the world stage.I just don't know.
Catholic families are usually wealthier, meaning their kids get a better education, and thus better grades. Anyone who's suffered the state education system (i have) will know that you really do have to work your arse off for the grades, as the schools in the state system teach the bare minimum.
There is a Catholic school in my area, always has been since I was born. St Augustines. It out performs all other schools in the area, and has done for some time. Non catholic parents are eagerly trying to get their children into it, and I know some have even faked their religious beliefs to do so. This does not tell the whole story though, the teachers that are attracted to these schools are the best in the area. Why? Maybe the thought of teaching well brought up children appeals to them more than, may I say, scum. Good teachers ain't dumb, they will take the easier ride the same as me and you. Also going back to the issue of Why? Children from a strict religious upbringing are more obedient and less likely to cause problems for them, and I stress within the school environment....Just my thoughts.
Catholics in Northern Ireland are not wealthier than their Protestant neighbours. Quite the opposite could be true. Maybe not now but always in the past. It is a different situation here. Catholics are not a small minority. I think it is down to the ethos.
"Catholic pupils now account for 51% of places while Protestants make up 37% . The other 12% are pupils of other Christian denominations, non-Christian, no religion and whose religion has not been disclosed." "Figures obtained by the Belfast Telegraph show that of Northern Ireland students attending university, 35% are Protestants, 49% are Catholics and 16% are others." Catholics: 51% of population, 49% of university polulation. Protestants: 37% of population, 35% of university polulation. Others: 12% of population, 16% of university polulation. Seems that there's not much in it between Catholics and Protestants but "Others" out-perform both by some margin.
Who are the others? My point was that Catholics score 33% when it comes to getting the results to enter university and Protestants get 17%. Surely that is some gap?
It's the 21st Century. Why are people still banging on about Catholics and Protestants ffs? Don't you realise how ridiculous this makes you sound? This cr@p died out with Oliver Cromwell, who has been dead for a very long time btw. Jesus wept (literally).
