I'm regretting the decision to let him go already, he's having a great game for Leicester - in fact just probably scored the winner as I type this
He hasn't looked dangerous for us for a long time, so unfortunately this is probably a case of him having a honeymoon period at a new club that we've seen so many other players enjoy. Heck, Adebayor has formed a career around them. The loan was most likely a mutual decision - it's no good us keeping a player that wants more game time milling around the squad. He wasn't performing for us, but he wanted more game time which he hadn't earned on recent performances at Swansea, so it was a fair move him going to Leicester - especially given that he can't play against us. There probably weren't a whole host of clubs in for Dyer, so Leicester were as good a choice as any. I'd be surprised if he keeps up this level though. Happy to be proven wrong, and hope that if he continues to be successful he can come back and replicate his form with us. I would have thought that regular game time and a return to form is half of the reason that he's there in the first place. But I must note - fantastic, brave goal by him today. I still think he looked his recent sloppy self with regards to his touch, but he looked more purposeful and eager to keep trying and trying, which is what he'd been lacking for us. Obviously having a new set of fans, coaches and teammates to win over has ignited the fire within him that seemed to have been burning out at Swansea. Pleased for him that he's back in the spotlight once again. Now it's up to him to remain focussed and committed.
I always thaught that fans where a bit too harsh on dyer last season. And as I said when he left, he makes our squad look strong and without him we are weaker and have made a direct rival stronger by loaning him out! I do understand the logic behind your statement but I don't agree with it. Today is proof of that. We will only truly know at the end of the season
Shame he wouldn't/ couldn't do it for us then. He has been absolutely dreadful for a long time and if playing elsewhere improves his game then that benefits him and us. Knee-jerk reaction that I expected, and BK's post is spot on.
Before you go off I'd check out the stats! In every department he was better than routlage last season! I agree he wasn't at his best last season but I'd start him over Routlage any day!
Dyer trumped Routlage in; Shot accuracy 64%-36% Pass accuracy 85%-77% Duels won 41%-37% So excuse me for feeling a bit aggrieved that we let an important player go to a direct competitor making them stronger.
Monk doesn't now who is the better winger, Dyer or Routledge? Clearly Monk is on Prozac when putting Dyer behind the very poor Routs, and Dyer is out to prove a point, I said this the other week, and he will make Monk regret his stupidity in pushing Dyer down the pecking order, just watch Dyer succeed at Leicester when we have the dire Routs rolled out every game. Monk has made a huge mistake here, just like he did last season when Dyer was on form early season banging in the goals and he benched him. Monk has been great for us, but he does have a few oddities on times, and this is one.......................
He was dreadful most last season because Monk in his wisdom benched him after having a blistering start to the season banging in 4 or 5 goals in the first month? Monk has favoured Routs over Dyer when clearly Dyer was the better player and goal scorer.................
The thread wasn't about Routledge v Dyer. If anyone thinks Nathan has played well for us since September 2014 they can't be watching the Swans. When he has been on the pitch he's been worse than poor. Benching Dyer doesn't make him play badly when he comes on. It's up to him to play well and fight for his place - do something when called upon instead of nothing. As BK says, the loan system is there to get players game time, amongst other things, and if the loan enables him to get back to his best then both the Swans and the player will benefit.
Try digesting the real issue here, look at the goal stats of both wingers last season, and if anyone should be down the pecking order it is Routledge, not Dyer, which is why he wanted the loan move, Monk has this wrong and it will be proven as the season progresses.
Maybe, maybe not. You keep making the Routledge point and I understand why but the truth of it is that Nathan can't get game time now that Montero and Ayew are in pole position. This clearly didn't suit him as he wanted to play whereas Routledge is happy to fight for his place. It's not as simple as Monk choosing between Dyer and Routledge. My guess is that Monk wanted to keep both here, as do I. It was Nathan's choice to go out on loan - nobody forced him. I question why he can play well for Leicester in the 45 minutes he had today but plays so badly for us. And that isn't Monk's fault. Probably needed a fresh challenge and it's got him firing again. I hope he comes back to us a more motivated player as a result.
Routlage is completely relevant in this debate as he's now our only senior back up winger. I agree ye he didn't have a good season last season but he's a better back up player than routlage who has been extremely poor for over 12 months now.
Read my earlier post - you're over-simplifying it. And if you're saying Dyer hasn't been poor for 12 months then you're wrong.
I did and that's why I liked it. But the point dragon and myself are making is that monk put Routlage ahead of him which maybe the reason why he felt that a switch will be the only option for game time
The key word is 'maybe'. In other words you're both speculating. Makes more sense to me (yes, this is speculation too) that he went out on loan because whilst Routledge was prepared to be backup and take his chances when they came Dyer wasn't. Can't imagine Monk forcing him out. That's why your Routledge v Dyer comparison is facile. Pointless debate anyway - Dyer is out for the season at his request and we have to live with it, whether he does well for the Foxes or not.
Why Routs is above Dyer in the pecking order is because of Dyers poor performances for a very long time and Routs is more reliable and safer bet. Monk has pulled off a master stroke in letting Dyer join the foxes on loan to get him game time as he was never going to get much with us with the form he was showing. I believe that we have seen the last of Dyer in a swans shirt anyway as we will need better than both Dyer and Routs for next season anyway. Good luck to Dyer he needed a move away to regenerate his career....
