Says Suarez' tackle on Distin was a red card Just like Fergie, bar results of course http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20116793
I thought Moyes conducted himself quite well and his comments were not unfair. He supported Luis over the celebration which you just knew pissed off all the media who were waiting to jump on the story and fill the pages with negative Suarez stuff, and then commented on the yellow card incident. I must admit watching the game live at home I couldn't see why he was booked and was furious and associated the booking with the ref possibly being peeved about the earlier Suarez celebration, but then watching it on MOTD later it looked very poor and Suarez knew it, he himself was mightily relieved with just a yellow, so all in all I don't think Moyes was unfair and managed to nip the Suarez hating in the bud over the celebration.
Just sums up the media atm, that they focus (headline) on a nothing issue in a big exciting game, instead of the terrible decision of disallowing a perfectly good goal.
I have never wanted half time to come as soon as posible as yesterday! Have to say good tactical switch by BR at HT, reacted to what was happening not some preconceived idea.
For the first time in many years it appeared that the Derby was fought in the right spirit - no quarter asked or given but with the result just too important to start a war. I have to agree that halftime only just came in time and that the substitutions worked well. Pity about the 'winner' though.
Did any of you see that bit on the BBC write up where they said something along the lines of: "Suarez denied a goal in the 4th minute of stoppage time due to an offside flag but the game will truly be remembered by Luis Suarez's celebration towards David Moyes." No chance of explaining the fact that we were denied 3 points due to a cowardly call (after Suarez started celebrating), but you'll harp on about how misguided Suarez is for a bit of banter on the pitch?
Give em enough rope as they say! BBC is quickly becoming known for its xenophobia and not just in terms of Liverpool supporters views. The longer they ignore proper stories the more they become an irrelevance and couple that with a complete and utter lack of governance from an organisation funded from all our pockets and there will come a time when they are unsustainable. You see it in everything, from the fact that accountability, management, and governance being so poor that an alleged ****phile and child molester can exist within its ranks quite happily for 40 years, going unchecked and largely allowed to do what he likes. Its a bit like the web sports department at Salford Keys, writing complete xenophobic drivel all the time with what looks to me like very little management control from above as well as a complete ignorance of the bigger picture. People are fed up with the Suarez stories now but they know better, they are blind to their own churlishness and are only still able to exist because of some arcane act of parliament which basically says "if you have air in your house then it is capable of carrying a radio signal so give us £120 a year". Yes I know thats not the wording but it may as well be, I have written to local MP asking why this isn't going to be changed any time soon, but as I read their web site occasionally I guess my argument is a bit shallow! In practice it is really good that the BBC and all papers slag of Suarez, they have turned him into a none story, pantomine villan, which everyone takes with a pinch of salt, and if nothing else yesterdays dive in front of Moyes said load and clear, "do you think I give a *uck about what you lot think", it was aimed at all the media as much as it was aimed at DM. I think he knows that if he were not a footballer and instead worked in the press that he would do the job much better than any of them, he has talent and focus and would rise to the top in most things he choses to do. I think he sees them as just as much a bunch of clueless hacks same as how we see them, and frankly I don't think he cares, good on him.
Excellent post . I agree, the best part of this whole witchhunt is that Suarez genuinely doesn't give a ****. He's said before he doesn't even read the newspapers as he doesn't care what's printed about him. Most news is relayed to him by his friends and family probably. I don't live in the UK so I'm unfamiliar with the situation with the BBC, other than the Savile case. Is it really mandatory to pay for the BBC license? If so, isn't it technically a public news service, or a governmental one? How can they be so obviously biased if they're publicly funded? ( I know how, I'm just saying it shouldn't be so). The commentators yesterday kept going on about him being a pantomime villain, in a negative sense. I don't think they were intelligent enough to understand that a pantomime villain is a caricature, an exaggerated figure. Being made out to be worse than he really is, essentially. To a neutral it must be hilarious, seeing a footballer painted as satan incarnate. Soon they'll be linking him, Rio and Clattenburg to a worldwide racism ring. After that terrorism, sabotage, treason, spreading HIV and who knows what else.
But you call everyone clueless who never has a good word to say about your club, if you look outside the bubble you are all living in and maybe ask why are people are now sticking the boot into Liverpool all the time, then you may find the answer. But calling people clueless for having an honest opinion on your club is one way to brush it under the carpet I suppose, and also if anything happens with Refs that you dont get a decision for its always Fergie's fault, now that is what I will call clueless. If I was Fergie there would be a lot of liable's on the way.
Once more, it's LIBEL you thick twat And show me an HONEST opinion about our club and I'll show you my ass
Fook me you are dense, did anyone see that new harry enfield piss take of question time where dense people mouth catchphrase nonsense without really saying anything? If not read the above and you've got the gist.
My respect for him is dwindling to be honest. He did the classic 'comment in the media to help influence decisions' which it could be argued did as it was Suarez who had the goal disallowed. Now he's grumbling about all sorts. Except the throw in for their second of course which never happened... He's trying to cement his position as the best in Merseyside and using every tactic possible. Shame. 10 years and not even a League Cup must be painfull.
What about Felllaini trying to kick allen wwhen he was on the floor, Sky TV highlighted it, so why no comment on that mr moyes?
My GOD, so predictable nobody agrees... resort to pointless crap about something that is not even part of the argument. And yippee I could say your part of Harry Enfield clan.................maybe the Scouser's so thick its untrue. (These opinions of Scousers are down to Harry Enfield and not mine) Reply: OPTION 1: More slagging other posters off because we don't agree with you, go on you know you want to. OPTION 2: Or you can reply with a responsible answer but i think it will be the first option.
Yeh your 12th in the Premier League according to the BBC, and 99% of Football fans will agree Suarez was lucky not to get a Red thats a honest opinion. And also I believe Suarez doesn't get the rub of the green for Penalties maybe he should have had 2/3 penalties more then he has this season another honest opinion but not once again slag off anyone who doesnt agree with the victimastion off your club and get called a thick twat cos of predictive text not a spelling mistake or anything because it put that in for me and I didn't realise. Kudos to you can't imagine how your kids would feel if they did a spelling mistake or do they get the same treatment. (Cue another blast, calling another user names to make yourself feel like a big man). Im happy with my life and my football team maybe you should be with yours except blaming everyone under the sun for your fall from grace.(Although I do think BR will actually do something good for your club.) PS> I haven't checked any spelling mistakes and I'm not going to so if there is any in there feel free to call me a inbred twat, idiot if it makes you feel any better.
What Suarez did when the first goal went in can only be described as banter. Moyes himself said he would have done something similar. However it was a bit of a joke that Suarez' goal at the end was disallowed when out of the three major decisions all weekend, he was the one that was on-side. There was the Arteta incident for Arsenal vs QPR, Arteta was 4 yards off-side. There was the Hernandez incident, when Hernandez was clearly off-side, even Gary Neville said so. So why did they get all three wrong? I'm not disputing the result between Manchester United and Chelsea, as United would have won with Chelsea down to 10 as the ref got the Ivanovic decision correct. Not in a lifetime should Torres have been sent off.
But the thing is there is plenty of good stuff happening around the club, and lots to talk about in every 90 minutes of football, but the BBC have it seems to me an agenda of attacking Suarez and it gets a bit boring. Its lazy clueless journalism, if a sub editor was to say lets do a piece about the youth academy or something positive I am sure it would be met by blank faces amongst the staff. The real test for me is reading other reports of the games IE. the Indi, Huffington post, or some other usually foreign online article and there is never the angle or level of criticism as he gets from the BBC, Mirror, Guardian, etc. Just for tone: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ow-for-liverpool-against-everton-8229668.html Pretending that he is the only footballer that is contraversial and lapping up every morsel of bile about him is one way of brushing under the carpet the fact that he does get attacked a lot and quite unnecceserly. Not sure I have mentioned Fergie in any of my posts on this thread by the way. Interesting you use a phrase there that I use a bit with friends, staff, etc, when there is a presure type issue ongoing "Take yourself out the bubble", if you read the Blair Diaries written by staunch Burnley supporter Alastair Campbell he talks about the 1997 election when the tories had been in power 18 years and they were desperate to win and the press were giving them stick and disecting everything they did. Campbell would talk to his big mate Fergie who would advise him to take himself and Blair out of the Bubble, explaining that in his career you often end up in the melting pot and you need to stand back from it to regain perspective, understand what is important, see where it fits in to what your there to acheive etc. this is what I believe the press need to do with Suarez and start to enjoy his skills a bit, I am fully aware they all need to sell papers or advertising if its online so can understand the general media, but the BBC don't have those constrants and should be more balanced, when in fact they are the most biased of the lot. Without Moyes supporting Suarez, not just with a bland answer to the journo, but being expansive and adding personal perspective to his answer "I would have done it myself", then Suarez would have been slated and you can guarantee the BBC would have been twisting the knife.
Yet more gibberish. Stop shouting at the computer, take a deep breath and then slowly try to post something that at least resembles coherent argument. Then, and only then can people begin to agree with or challenge what you say. Until that happens your views will be given as much respect as those of a drunk tramp on the last train home.
