Love him or hate him, you surely have to admire his winning record in finals 10 out of 12 major finals won. Sure, he strangled the life out of the game on Sunday and can be seen as a negative coach but hell, give me his record over the last 10 years and I'd bite your arm off for it. I know some will say they'd rather not......really? So here's the question; would you give up our attractive football philosophy for a Mourinho style efficiency if it guaranteed trophies?
No, I want joy The week to week misery of Mourinho isn't outweighed by 5 minutes of dancing on the pitch with the COC Cup
The joy comes from lifting the pot. How you win a final is irrelevant, as long as you win. Playing with 'style' and losing a final means **** all, people only remember the winners, and the record books don't have a section for the 'most stylish losers'
I know a lot of Chelsea fans and not one of them are enduring any type of misery right now. They'll win the league, have won one cup and have a foot in the quarter finals of the CL. I've experienced misery and believe me, that's not it!!
Yeah but I don't give a **** what other people read in record books or their opinions. And for me it does matter how you win, though more the story of a game than purely attractive vs unattractive football. I love the 2005 and 2006 final wins, but if they'd just been 90 minutes of antifootball decided by an own goal in our favour they'd mean far far less to me. I know you haven't had any trophies to lift for about 20 years, but imagine if you actually played enjoyable football all that time. Wouldn't that have been better?
TBF Chelsea have some good players, Mourinho hasn't killed them yet. But his record is spread over multiple teams for a reason (and mostly billionaire clubs). But imagine if Van Gaal managed to hoof and dive his way to an FA Cup, it wouldn't make up for what they have to watch every week IMO.
Delusional. By that 'logic' you'd prefer to lose a final playing like Brazil 1970, than winning one by grinding out a 1-0? Utter gonads
When it comes to finals it's win anyway you can even if it means playing horrible defensive football. However during the the season and how you get to that cup final should be played the right way in an ideal world. Cup up finals help you attract better players to play nicer football.
mourinho neglects to mention that he didn't just strnagle the life out of a final.. he does it week in and week out and really only opens up agasint lower sides he knows they should have to come out and beat cos they are happy to do what he does. Mourinho's attitude is WE WILL NOT LOSE. not we will win. He always live son a knife edge as a result so his record actually in europe hasn't been all that when you consider he had so much money in his first cheslea stint.. walked into a joyous set up at inter (and strangled the life out of barca with long grass on the san siro pitch) and then failed at real. he will not lose to his rivals in the top 4. he just won't so he'll rather draw 1-1 from 1-0 up than try to win 2 or 3 -0 and lose 1-2. he'd rather defend for 70 mins and let sides attack and hope to send one or two players on the break. anyway.... most finals are not good spectacles as most teams do try not to lose... LFC since 2001 have had mad finals.. and most of our semi finals have been strangling sides to get through... even in dalglish's one semi v man city.
I think that there may be a few rose tints flying around tbh. Our wins in 2005/2006 were dramatic and gave us some fairytale finals to cling to but Rafa's footballing machine was more akin to Mourinho's than to BR's. Make no mistake, Rafa would have strangled the hell out of both games given the chance and we very nearly lost both. While I really do get how as a set of fans, we want to see the most attractive football possible, I can't understand how anyone would swap league titles or CL's for a purists footballing style. It's beyond me. Of course, in a perfect world, I'd take both. Who wouldn't?
Of course it's not delusion you #bitter contrarian Mourinho's style almost guarantees you will never have a final worth watching again. How many people will bother watching even the highlights of yesterday's final ever again? I never said I prefer to lose than win, and guess what many trophies have been won by managers other than Mourinho How about the option of winning 9 trophies playing like the old Stoke or 7 trophies playing like the old Barcelona? It doesn't mean I WANT TO LOSE 2 finals it just means I want to watch football more than I want to watch a number increase on a wikipedia article
It's true. Even I turned the damn game off!! But if that were LFC in the final, I'd have watched it and been happy that we were never going to lose.
Rafa was defensive but not anti-football Rafa would play two DMs against opponents, Mourinho would play two footed challenges against opponents #tactics
Of course we want both- and it doesn't have to be an either-or question. However, if I can explain my position (again, we've been here before). Football is about entertainment- I watch every game we play, one way or another. Why would I want to waste so much of my life watching hours of dull, frustrating stuff just to have some bragging rights over others by pointing to how many trophies we've won? That's what I can't understand, when people say winning is everything. If we win occasionally by hard graft because that's the only way, I'll accept it. But I don't have to like it and I certainly wouldn't build a philosophy around it like Mourinho appears to have.
Just a note specific to yesterday though, I have no sympathy for Spurs since they have played ****e this season so them winning wouldn't have been any kind of victory for good football either.
A lot of Benitez football would have put a glass eye to sleep. #selectivememoryloss #doublestandards p.s. Mourinho's 'anti football' this season has seen them average 2.15 league goals per game to your 1.48 #thegreatentertainersmyarse
