Shouldn’t Leicester be 4th or 5th ?? They won the PL which counts for more than a domestic cup(s) by the criteria
Yeah I'm pretty sure that at no point in my 15 years or so of going to games that Saints have been 'by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen'
thst falls in the same category as UEFA super cups, wold club championships and charity shields. or should I say the same scrap bin
I have never and will never be able to process this as a line of thought I know i am wrong and you are right but i just dont get it Why are trophies where the pre requisite is to have won something treated as jokes I WANT to win the world club championships as it means we have qualified for and won the CL Just dont get it
In my opinion, Charity Shield, Super Cups etc are showpiece events and don't qualify as serious trophies. The only things that count towards trophy haul are PL and Cl, Europy, FA and LC cups (in whatever guise they are in).
charity shield is just what it says on the tin. it's a preseason friendly played for charity. super cup is another of the same. it's not even remotely relevant as a game. world.club championship is something fifa have wanted but have failed.to create primarally as they've stuck.it out in far East as a "neutral ground" imo if you.counted these then you'd have to ask. if you won the cl one year and won nothing but the super cup or world.club championship the next year would you be happy? think like a real Madrid fan here... that's a sacking offence imo there
Because a trophy for winning 1 or two games is embarrassing, especially when it's often a fight between different levels of competition How about the PL winners go on a post season tour against the winners of every other league in England, you could get like 15 trophies It would make more sense to award trophies for coming top of your CL group than the world club championship
Again ihear what you are saying and can see that you are right but you shouldnt be. People talk about consistency winning the league, but to win the world club you have to perform over 3 seasons, one to qulify, one to win pre requisite and one to win the cup. Would i be happy with winning just the wcc one season, hell yeah As it would mean we had won the CL the previous season. Just opinions i suppose
Normally agree with you astro on a lot of things but i dont think it is anything like that. CL winner versus winners of the other equivalent champs of other footballing regions is prestigeous to me the number of games is irrrelavent as the process to reduce the participants has already taken place It is the best team from each region. Because europe and south america are strong areas that is where the final two places usually yield from You havent won one or two games you have performed over 38 games to qualify first stage 16 (Ish)games second stage and couple of games final stage
These are not genuine competitions, they are invitationals. The process to reduce the participants applied to the original competition not the new one that's being staged. You even admit it yourself the new competition's value is only in leeching off the original: "I WANT to win the world club championships as it means we have qualified for and won the CL". How about 2 CLs or 1 CL and 1 Super Cup? 101% of people would choose 2 CLs (margin of error 1%) People can also understand that competition for entertainment requires a level of fairness. The world club cup takes clubs with vastly different resources. Even with just 7 clubs involved it still has to be seeded to avoid completely embarrassing the participants.
I know i am in the wrong but i just cant bring myself to admit it lmao On your choice though i would take either nice choice to have
Just have a look at the teams in this year's World Club thingy and ask yourself if you really think it's a meaningful competition. It's just a money-spinning confection. Pointless.
I just think a trophy is a trophy I want us to win them all, the wcc to me has meaning. Cannot go off the competion they are there on merit, otherwise if you have an easy route to CL pr FA cup Or a year when the top teams dont perform like when leicester won PL are we saying that those dont count. For me a trophy is a trophy, i do draw the line at that arsenal one though lmao