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Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by Plymborn, Jan 5, 2013.

  1. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member
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    I am finding it difficult to make sense of letting Darren Purse go.

    OK he hasn't been as good as last season......but it was clear today that he was missed.

    To let him go to save money is poor thinking.....what saves most money....off-loading a central mid-fielder with experience.....or to drop down to the Conference because of poor defending with less experienced players........a sign of a poor management decision....one amongst many.
     
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  2. Greenarmyjoe

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    Brent is full of good ideas!
     
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    Plymborn

    It surely can't be difficult to grasp the idea that you can't spend more than you earn, can it? That one anybody can get, so you are 50% of the way there.

    A bit harder is to understand is that football clubs don't make money. Even if they succeed in the sporting sense, the higher costs of getting players to sustain that success eat up any increase in gate revenue. This isn't my opinion, it's a fact revealed by the stats that Sensible loves so much - there are only a handful in the country that make a profit and those are the ones playing in Europe, let alone the Premier League. That's the easy bit.

    The fact that follows inevitably is that a football club is worth nothing at best and is a liability at worst and no matter how much you spend on it, that won't change. So Brent's refusal to subsidise the club is impeccable management decision making. It's a one-way bet so absolutely the best and indeed only business decision is NOT to put any further money into it and thereby to minimise any loss if it goes belly up.

    This seems to be difficult for the average PAFC fan to understand. It's an unpleasant message for them for sure and a fundamental one. The only way to lift the club up the leagues is for more fans to come through the gate. There is no incentive at all for Brent to buy that for the fans as there's no value for him in it whether the club falls or rises. Let the fans decide.
     
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  4. Plymborn

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    So that's alright then notDistant....work within the confinements of never spending more than you earn.......in Div2 then Conference Premier then Conference South then whatever Western league is next inline all the way down to the local Plymouth rec league on a sunday morning.......Ok a little over the top I grant you ....but you must see that football isn't the cold fact of an accountants gain or loss sheet.
     
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    Let the fans decide.
     
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    You might not of noticed notDistant....but they have.
     
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    Well then kiss goodbye to thoughts of promotion and get ready for the eventual liquidation.
     
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  8. Greenarmyjoe

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    The fans have decided .. to stay away as they do not want to pay large amounts of hard earned cash to watch Carp! You don't see that. Fans won't come unless they see great improvement? that will not happen if Brent does not spend, all he wants is the spin off from the city. no wonder he was friendly with the council!
    How many games have you attended distant since Brent has arrived??
     
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  9. sensiblegreeny

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    It is stating th obvious that more people are required through the gates on a matchday. We aren't stupid enough to think that anyone, unless they have a bottomless pit of cash, could sustain anything for ever if it continually loses. The hard bit is how do you get those numbers. Well the cornerstone of that must be to give the punter something half worth coming for. If you don't then it isn't rocket science to expect them not to for long. Herein lies the dilema. The fans came in fairly good numbers considering the battering they took for several years. There was never ever going to be 10000 or even the suposed 8000 some idiot told Brent allegedly were going to come. Nobody could have reasonably expected that. There has to be something given from both sides. I think the fans did their bit generally but the "management" didn't do their's. If the club goes belly up then I know who I will blame.
     
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    Brent!! will get the blame. He expects but don't want to give f all. He needs to invest to get more interest and FANS through the gates.. simple. we don't need you keep telling us Distant.. also your stats are complete Bollocks
     
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    O Driscoll is going to Doncaster!!!
     
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    Statistics can be manipulated to support whatever point you are trying to make ...... that is common knowledge !
     
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    80% of people believe that also Gat.......the other 20% believe the moon is made out of green cheese as well.
     
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  14. Greenarmyjoe

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    Stats are what bull ****ters write and beleive!! As i said STATS don't win Games
     
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    90% of English football clubs don't make money.
    PAFC is one of them.
    If PAFC got promoted, it still wouldn't make money as higher costs will eat up the extra revenue.
    Nobody in their right mind invests in a business like that.
    Brent is in his right mind.
    Only the fans can affect the club's position, If more attend, the club will prosper eventually. If fewer attend, it will go out of business eventually.

    I'm the second parrot on this site but I'm likely to go on and on in the birdbrained hope you lot will face facts eventually.
     
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  16. Plymjools

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    Do you apply the same principle in every aspect of your life Notdistant .... you'd return time and time again to a restaurant that served disgusting food, a tailor that made shoddy suits, a barber that hacked your hair off every visit to name but a few because if you didn't they would go out of business ????? If you say you would I wont believe you, but you expect us to hand over our hard earned money to watch carp week in week out and if you expect people to act any differently you are living in fairy dairy land !
     
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  17. sensiblegreeny

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    Contrary to your beliefs notdistant most of us already know that. I like facts where you like stats. Fact is that if the product is carp then people won't buy it in sufficient numbers. Fact is that somebody has to give way and provide a product that is acceptable to make people buy it. The outcome of neither giving way is factually going out of business. You don't have to continually state the obvious because most likely everyone can work it out for themselves. If the product goes out of existance though I will still blame the maker for not even trying to give the public something worth buying. Whatever the stats say.
     
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  18. Greenarmyjoe

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    Fu ck the stats.. Gat is fairy diary land near Cloud cuckoo Land?

    Brent will take all the blame if it goes tits up as he purchased or got for FREE PAFC, so its up to him to sell it to the public.

    I see you never answer distant when asked how many time you attended under Brent, but you expect us to all go and watch the garbage. Get it in your head people will not watch it until they see a change and that means a few wins and some players as it is obvious it can't survive without the fans. They are staying away for a reason as the product is SH IT :emoticon-0172-mooni:emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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