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  1. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    Swansea City: Garry Monk disappointed by Villarreal defeat
    Swansea City manager Garry Monk said he was disappointed with his team's display in the 3-0 defeat against Villarreal in their final pre-season friendly at the Liberty Stadium.

    Monk's team was outclassed in their final game before kicking off the new Premier League season at Manchester United on 16 August.

    Goals by Ikechukwu, Bruno Soriano and Denis Cheryshev left Monk frustrated.

    "We made too many mistakes and our decision making was poor," said Monk.

    "But if you're going to make that many mistakes, it's better to do it the week before the start of the League season and hopefully get it all out of the way.

    "It showed that if you are off it just a little bit against a top quality side you can get punished.

    "So I think that will be a sharpener for us to realise that when you go to Manchester United you won't be able to lose that focus and concentration."

    Monk took over at Swansea in February 2013 following the departure of Michael Laudrup.

    On the day that defender Chico Flores confirmed his departure for Lekhwiya SC in Qatar where Laudrup is now manager, Monk conceded his team were outclassed by their Spanish visitors.

    He said he'd told the players that the stylish performance of Villarreal was an indication of what he was striving to achieve at the Liberty Stadium.

    "The way they play and the way they are set up is probably two or three years ahead of us," he added.

    "They're a very settled and a very fluid side and I said to the players afterwards that's what we have to aspire to.

    "That's what we're trying to do with the work that we're doing and putting in place and we're trying to reach something close to what we saw [from Villareal] today."




    Is this guy the full quid, surely HE has to take some responsibility for the formation he put out, CLUELESS
     
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  2. JackPA26

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    2-3 years ahead of us?? ....to me that's admitting we have gone backwards under Monk. I refuse to believe we are 2-3 years behind any team given the way we typically try and play....although to be fair, the way Monk has dismantled the team, the way we used to play may well be a thing of the past. Let's just get Utd out of the way without embarrassing ourselves and see where we stand in winnable games that follow.
     
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  3. ValleyGraduate12

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    How can it take 2-3 years when Roberto done it at Everton in 8 weeks? :mad:
     
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  4. keith gatebroth

    keith gatebroth Well-Known Member

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    What a weird statement. We can and have played like Villarreal did yesterday,where has it gone? We played like a bunch of schoolboys,with no tactics other than to lump it forward,and the wrong formation with players out of position. The team has been dismantled,and we are playing an unfamiliar 4-4-2. Siggy on the wing? Bony and Gomis going for the same ball,full backs having a torrid time. Why didn't Monk change things when after the first few minutes you could see 4-4-2 wasn't working. With only youngsters on the bench there was nobody that could come on and change the game anyway.
     
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    That's the only thing saving Monk from an all out slaughtering I think. With Emnes, Dyer and Routs unavailable, there was nobody else to play on the right wing and Montero didn't look that quick. If fit, I'd expect both Dyer and Routs to be on the flanks against Utd, as we were starved of any pace yesterday.
     
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  6. mikraswan

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    Martinez didn't sell half the squad upon arrival at goodison park. Monk has sold all the back-up players, now he has to wait 2-3 years before the youth players can make a break through...
     
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    But none of the Everton players had that way before whereas we have and getting back to our way should have been easy as the players are used to playing that way.
    If Roberto did it with a squad who played the exact opposit under Moyes for 10 years, Monk should have re implemented it after f**ing 6 months especially when Roberto done it in 6 weeks.
    Hopefully he was just trying a different formation against a very very good side before the league starts.
     
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  8. Bob the slob

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    not as disappointed as me! £15 + parking + food and a round trip of 4 hours .. for parks football.

    The mistake we are making is to assume the 'Swansea way' of which Monk and Huw speak is the way Roberto, Paulo, Brendon and Michael had us playing, when in fact what they are aiming for is a return to the glory days style of when Monk first arrived at Swansea. Our well intentioned and reasonably successful master. ... sorry hamster was Kenny Jackett.
    I'm very grateful for Kenny's success which built on the restructuring and improvements of his predecessor but he did not, at the time, have the skills need to take us forward.

    it is time the board realised they have made a mistake and looked for a manager who will make a decent attempt at keeping us in the Premier league.
     
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  9. mikraswan

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    I obviously didn't see the match, but Swansea doesn't strike me as a team that will do well in a 442. Zonal marking and all that...
    442 is a very physical style of play too. With less emphasis on keeping the ball and technical skills...
     
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    Just hoping Mikra, that with Leon, Routs, Dyer and Emnes out, we were forced to try a different formation as we didn't have an out and out right wing.

    What concerned me was that after 60 minutes and 3-0 down (I think that was the score) Monk took Bartley off and put Amat on. A strange substitution that as it was to late to bring him on 3-0 down.
     
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    Disagree here.

    He has senior players like Canas he just choose not to use him. no point i moaning you only have kids when you've been actively playing kids and sitting senior players in the stand.

    Monk can't have it both ways. Anyway, nothing wrong with putting on some young players they could not have done any worse in that formation .
     
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    Monk wont be there that long Mikra, yesterday was the first time he realized the magnitude of his actions, looking slightly shell shocked sitting on the bench in silence, something Laudrup always took pelters for .

    And then telling the world we are 2/3 years behind a team that was second division spanish league last season! weird to see villarreal playing like the Swans and the Swans not having clue other than to lump it up the field, it drops firmly on the head of the coach and he knows it.
     
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  13. Yankee_Jack

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    Forget what happened to Laudrup, how Monk did a "Monk" and how the brains trust - HJ and the Board - executed the execution ... and any bad will that might engender.

    If statements like this are the norm behind the scenes, then is it any wonder that players like Vorm, Michu, Chico, Pablo want out and Canas and Poz just looked on and "laughed" and had to be moved on because laughing while training doesn't work. I'm not putting Davies in there because he might have just seen the bright lights of Spurs. We have had half of a pretty decent first team walk out.

    We've had our past few managers blarney (Rogers), simple straight-talk (Laudrup), etc ... but none have ever dismantled a squad that didn't need distmantling, look on bewildered as we were beaten at home by a team that played our way, while we played like anything but us and did nothing to adjust what he put on the field ... and then uttered something akin to nonsense.

    If this sounds OK to HJ and the Board then Monk is absolutely the least of our problems. He is just the tip of an ugly iceberg.

    Last season we went into Valencia and won 3-0. Villarreal is no Valencia. We were not 2 to 3 seasons behind anybody last season.
     
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    It sounds to me from the comments of those at the match that Monk attempted to play Sig in the role he used JDG in at the end of last season. It sounds like Sig either didn't listen or couldn't execute what he was asked to do.

    Which brings me to .... are we going to miss JDG more than we think. Was Sig really an upgrade. I ask this since JDG could adapt - somewhat - to a different role.
     
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    Yankee - I was thinking the same. JDG can play on the right, Siggi to me is more of the central attacking midfielder, more akin to Michu.
     
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    "The way they play and the way they are set up is probably two or three years ahead of us," he added.


    Thats known as getting your excuses in early . a very poor performance with no idea or how to adapt to the opposition & something which was all too visible last season ,we lost the midfield where we were overrun .If he thinks they were years in front of us then what the hell have we been doing for last 8 years or so .
     
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  17. Norway-jack

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    More like what the fook have we been doing the last 8 months Bony !

    Never thought id see the day when we would be playing hoofball against a team that just passed it around us and made total mugs of us with and without the ball .

    I can't see what Monks football approach is, it seems that he has just walked in through the door and not seen what has happened at our club the last 8 years, im certain that members of the board arnt happy about this.
     
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  18. Bob the slob

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    Strong suggestions that we wanted Siggy but weren't prepared to do a straight swap for Bony so Davies and Vorm were offered up, (with Vorm wanting out not because of the arrival of Fabianski but the lack of respect towards him over the transfer) there was little resistance.
     
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    Yes it's only a friendly but this doesn't look good. Not one bit. Daiswan's bullshit gloss is incoming I suspect.
     
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  20. LIBERTARIAN

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    He's probably "priming" himself before applying his usual "undercoat" of nonsense. <laugh>
     
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