Daily Racing Thread Monday 19th. March 2018

[mick the jolly sailor]

Hmmmmmm, I dont know much about Geoff Banks but what I do know is that these high profile trainers (especially Mullins and Henderson) royally led punters up the garden path this year with the will he run here, will he run there sagas. The Douvan saga and the Altior injury scare were nothing short of farcical and at times probably fraudulent.
Whilst on the subject of Festival declarations. Some friends of mine had a horse entered in the Grand Annual but the beast failed by two to get in. On the day two horses were withdrawn with the reason given "unsuitable ground", I dont think the ground changed one iota from Thursday to Friday so why were they not pulled out on Thursday to give the reserves a run.
Finally, a horse was withdrawn on the morning of its race on Wednesday when I knew and told people the Wednesday before that it was not going to run. Any ideas why it may have appeared in the overnight declarations? I am sure you can work it out.
These farcical declarations and will they wont they sagas are all perpetrated without a single care for us punters. You may feel that they can do as they please as they are their horses and they pay the bills but ultimately racing only exists because of the huge betting industry.
Just a little footnote. Two trainers were fined during the meeting for "not declaring their horses non runners in a timely manner". In one instance the horse had arrived back at its yard in Ireland the night before!

Couldn't have put it better myself.
The big trainers and owners couldn't give a flying **** about us punters, who ultimately keep them in a job.

 

[rainermariarilke]

I think I've done Cheyanne White an injustice. First, you shouldn't make jokes about people's names, which they don't choose for themselves: cheap shot, and I take it back. Second, I thought she didn't do a lot wrong in the race. OK, she was last and a long way back, but I assume that keeping the horse wide all the way was riding to instructions. She seemed entirely in sync with the horse, who looked happy enough afterwards, and I wish her every success.

 

[CaptainPops]

Hmmmmmm, I dont know much about Geoff Banks but what I do know is that these high profile trainers (especially Mullins and Henderson) royally led punters up the garden path this year with the will he run here, will he run there sagas. The Douvan saga and the Altior injury scare were nothing short of farcical and at times probably fraudulent.
Whilst on the subject of Festival declarations. Some friends of mine had a horse entered in the Grand Annual but the beast failed by two to get in. On the day two horses were withdrawn with the reason given "unsuitable ground", I dont think the ground changed one iota from Thursday to Friday so why were they not pulled out on Thursday to give the reserves a run.
Finally, a horse was withdrawn on the morning of its race on Wednesday when I knew and told people the Wednesday before that it was not going to run. Any ideas why it may have appeared in the overnight declarations? I am sure you can work it out.
These farcical declarations and will they wont they sagas are all perpetrated without a single care for us punters. You may feel that they can do as they please as they are their horses and they pay the bills but ultimately racing only exists because of the huge betting industry.
Just a little footnote. Two trainers were fined during the meeting for "not declaring their horses non runners in a timely manner". In one instance the horse had arrived back at its yard in Ireland the night before!

Very well said stick ...a certain bostonbob has strange views on this and sees nothing wrong with that sort of behaviour but then I think it's cause he has some sort of over obsession and loyalty to the Mullins operation.

Rich Ricci is the executive chairman of Betbright. Just putting that one out there...

 

[woolcombe-folly007]

I think I've done Cheyanne White an injustice. First, you shouldn't make jokes about people's names, which they don't choose for themselves: cheap shot, and I take it back. Second, I thought she didn't do a lot wrong in the race. OK, she was last and a long way back, but I assume that keeping the horse wide all the way was riding to instructions. She seemed entirely in sync with the horse, who looked happy enough afterwards, and I wish her every success.

Don’t know the girl very well personally Howver she has worked in racing for quite a while and this was her first race ride- stall 14 on a horse that is coming back from a break and doesn’t go well fresh is hard enough for any jockey let alone one first time out. I know the actual trainer very well (not the one on the card) and they are an extremely small yard (now- but boy they have a lot of experince having a horse run in the Melbourne cup, a royal ascot winner and much more ) with only about 7/8 Horses - as I said in my post earlier today was all about giving her an experience to take away with and learn from which I’m sure she would have done massively! Good luck to her!!

 

[floridaspearl]

I think the heir to the biscuit tin dynasty linking up with the lieutenant is really bad news for British racing. Two crooks in it together will only make things worse. The owner went to Ireland to keep a low profile not imaging he would be so successful and now we are gonna be right royally shafted. He's a crook and so is his trainer. The future looks bleak.

 

[rainermariarilke]

'To keep a low profile'.......nothing at all to do with tax breaks and subsidies, then ?

 

[floridaspearl]

'To keep a low profile'.......nothing at all to do with tax breaks and subsidies, then ?

Good point well made.

 

[Sir Barney Chuckles]

Not too sure which is worse here....Walter Mittys reference to cancer, or Auroras **** stain!!!
At least you can get rid of cancer...the **** stain may prove a bit more problematic.
Perhaps Walter can enlighten us?

Be-Beep. Ba-ba-be-be-beep.

Still going for the attention seeking response whenever I post, I see. Awwwww bless. Actually in a way it’s quite sweet. So is, if the rumours about you having another/multiple accounts on here are true (personally, though I’m of the view, that you can have 20 accounts on here if you want…as long as it keeps you ‘happy’), you always using the ‘Jolly’ account to do it (those Trade Descriptions chaps really do need bring charges re you using the word ‘Jolly’ though).

Also still going at it with the old emoticons. Bless.

 

[Sir Barney Chuckles]

I think the heir to the biscuit tin dynasty linking up with the lieutenant is really bad news for British racing. Two crooks in it together will only make things worse. The owner went to Ireland to keep a low profile not imaging he would be so successful and now we are gonna be right royally shafted. He's a crook and so is his trainer. The future looks bleak.

How much does Ricci usually spend on new recruits??? Afraid I’m not that well acquainted with how much he has actually spent in the past.

The new Lieutenant / heir to the biscuit tin fortune alliance horse (Palixandre) cost €100,000. I’m guessing that is some way below the price he’s paid for most of the animals he’s bought and then placed with that trainer, in Ireland, I’ve never heard of. So I would doubt this heralds the start of some sort of wonderful union between the 2 chaps. Maybe, how Palixandre fares will ultimately decide if the association goes onto blossom or flounder pretty quickly.

Think you are being a bit doom laden though to suggest the future is bleak just because of Palixandre’s placing! More optimism and hope I would have thought.

 

[stick]

How much does Ricci usually spend on new recruits??? Afraid I’m not that well acquainted with how much he has actually spent in the past.

The new Lieutenant / heir to the biscuit tin fortune alliance horse (Palixandre) cost €100,000. I’m guessing that is some way below the price he’s paid for most of the animals he’s bought and then placed with that trainer, in Ireland, I’ve never heard of. So I would doubt this heralds the start of some sort of wonderful union between the 2 chaps. Maybe, how Palixandre fares will ultimately decide if the association goes onto blossom or flounder pretty quickly.

Think you are being a bit doom laden though to suggest the future is bleak just because of Palixandre’s placing! More optimism and hope I would have thought.

Its unclear exactly how much Mrs Ricci pays for her horses as they usually make a tour of the leading French breeders and buy up stock. They dont often purchase at public sale but this would represent a fairly significant purchase.
One horse with Nicky barely compares to JP having horses with Henderson, Fry, Curtis, Nicholls, Powell, Honeyball, Pauling, Sherwood, King etc etc.

 

[OddDog]

Its unclear exactly how much Mrs Ricci pays for her horses as they usually make a tour of the leading French breeders and buy up stock. They dont often purchase at public sale but this would represent a fairly significant purchase.
One horse with Nicky barely compares to JP having horses with Henderson, Fry, Curtis, Nicholls, Powell, Honeyball, Pauling, Sherwood, King etc etc.

Don't forget Nick Gifford

 

[mick the jolly sailor]

Be-Beep. Ba-ba-be-be-beep.

Still going for the attention seeking response whenever I post, I see. Awwwww bless. Actually in a way it’s quite sweet. So is, if the rumours about you having another/multiple accounts on here are true (personally, though I’m of the view, that you can have 20 accounts on here if you want…as long as it keeps you ‘happy’), you always using the ‘Jolly’ account to do it (those Trade Descriptions chaps really do need bring charges re you using the word ‘Jolly’ though).

Also still going at it with the old emoticons. Bless.

Do elaborate on the multiple account front please Walter.

I did have one a while back (Caselaw) but had log in problems when I got new laptop. So opened this one.
I only use this account Walter. I don't see the point in having more than one.
And please stop repeating yourself, it sounds rather desperate.

 

[Sir Barney Chuckles]

Do elaborate on the multiple account front please Walter.

I did have one a while back (Caselaw) but had log in problems when I got new laptop. So opened this one.
I only use this account Walter. I don't see the point in having more than one.
And please stop repeating yourself, it sounds rather desperate.

Be-Beep. Ba-ba-be-be-beep.

Nothing to elaborate on, old boy. As I’ve said before it’s not me who has made that accusation and as far as I’m concerned, as I’ve already said today…keep up, you can have 20 accounts on here as far as I’m concerned. If that’s what makes you happy.

It is though sweet that you’ve now got a ‘pet name’ for me (borderline disturbing as well but for the minute we will say it’s sweet). Although if I am old boy Walter Mitty I must be doing a pretty bad job of impersonating him as I can’t for the life of me see what vivid fantasy life I’ve ever portrayed myself as having!

As for repeating myself, I say repeating myself, well stop responding then. Cor bally blinkin’ blimey.

 

[mick the jolly sailor]

Be-Beep. Ba-ba-be-be-beep.

Nothing to elaborate on, old boy. As I’ve said before it’s not me who has made that accusation and as far as I’m concerned, as I’ve already said today…keep up, you can have 20 accounts on here as far as I’m concerned. If that’s what makes you happy.

It is though sweet that you’ve now got a ‘pet name’ for me (borderline disturbing as well but for the minute we will say it’s sweet). Although if I am old boy Walter Mitty I must be doing a pretty bad job of impersonating him as I can’t for the life of me see what vivid fantasy life I’ve ever portrayed myself as having!

As for repeating myself, I say repeating myself, well stop responding then. Cor bally blinkin’ blimey.

You state that there are rumours I have another/multiple accounts?
Like yourself, a bit desperate.
Elaborate Walter, or admit you are a liar.

WALTER MITTY: A fictional character given to grand and elaborate fantasies; daydreamer, liar.

 

[Joe_z]

If omo doesn't whiten it and daz doesn't brighten it fuk it. Lifes to short be happy.

 

[mick the jolly sailor]

If omo doesn't whiten it and daz doesn't brighten it fuk it. Lifes to short be happy.

Or just use Persil.

 

[Sir Barney Chuckles]

You state that there are rumours I have another/multiple accounts?
Like yourself, a bit desperate.
Elaborate Walter, or admit you are a liar.

WALTER MITTY: A fictional character given to grand and elaborate fantasies; daydreamer, liar.

I do know who Walter Mitty is thanks very much you don’t need to do a Mr Google search and then quote from Wikipedia! Quote Shakespeare or Oscar Wilde in the future much more edifying. As I’ve said to you, already today, I’ve never said anything grand or elaborate about my life on here ever so how that makes me Walter Mitty I’ve no idea. Unless you count eating beef stew and dumplings every Tuesday for me lunch as grand and elaborate that is! Or maybe moving to Wales qualifies?!?

Am repeating myself, again (just have I have done above), because it never seems to go in your head does it. I have never made any claims about you having multiple accounts – that was someone else. If you have or if you haven’t is of no interest to me – which is why I’ve never looked into the claim myself. I’m sure there are plenty on here with more than one account and really don’t want to get into another thread which involves allegations about x also being y. Its dull and its boring.

Anyway have a good evening I’m off to catch the choo-choo train home. Although let’s scratch that and go all Walter Mitty and say not the train but the chauffeur driven Rolls. Toodles…

 

[mick the jolly sailor]

Someone else?
Gutless.

 

[Joe_z]

If omo doesn't whiten it and daz doesn't brighten it fuk it. Lifes to short