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Minty's statement as imagined by Daily Record hacks

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    Sir David Murray has criticised the SPL investigation into alleged off-contract payments and slammed the suggestion that titles could be stripped as unjust.

    In a statement published though Press Association, Murray accused the SPL of acting outwith their own rules and with an agenda against the Ibrox club.

    Sir David Murray's statement in full

    I have decided to issue this statement because of the concerns which I have at the continuing attempts to inflict further punishment on Rangers Football Club.

    While the "Newco" Rangers was rejected for membership of the SPL on the publicly stated grounds of sporting integrity, I would question whether this was the underlying motive for many who took this decision. I am not totally convinced by the explanation that they were reacting to the opinions of the supporters of their individual clubs.

    This, in my opinion, is a suitable answer to cover many other agendas.

    I applaud the decision of the SFL to accept Rangers for membership and respect the decision of the member clubs of the SFL to admit Rangers to its Third Division.

    The problems at Rangers have brought no credit to Scottish football and are a tragedy for the Club and for all those connected with it and who support it. They cannot be condoned and it is appropriate that there should be a proportionate penalty for the Club for the events over the last year.

    However, I urge all those connected with Scottish football to bring this sad affair to a close - now. Bayoneting the wounded is neither justified nor proportionate.

    Nevertheless, I cannot be anything other than angered at the suggestion that Rangers should be stripped of titles or other competition victories.

    This suggestion is an insult to the staff and players who achieved these successes thanks to skill, hard work and commitment and for no other reason.

    It is also an insult to the thousands of Rangers supporters who spent their hard-earned money to support the Club they love.

    I hope that those presently in charge of Rangers show sufficient resolve when it comes to resisting this move, despite the incentives being offered to do otherwise.

    I believe that there is a misconception which may lie behind this suggested penalty and accordingly it is my duty to clarify certain matters.

    During my stewardship of Rangers no rules were breached or circumvented and I reject and resent any suggestion that anything was done which amounted to cheating.

    As was required of a PLC, all accounts were fully audited and made available to all entitled parties. All football rules were complied with. All enquiries from entitled parties or organisations were answered.

    To those who criticise certain actions undertaken on behalf of the Club, I suggest that they familiarise themselves with all relevant rules before they come to any conclusions or express any opinions.

    This is particularly relevant to the SPL rules where it would appear that there are efforts to retrospectively rewrite laws to incorporate items not previously covered.

    The SPL rules variously required disclosure of all contract of service matters and all payments from a club to a player.

    It would now appear that these are to be rewritten to incorporate non-contractual loans from independent third parties and other non-contractual matters.

    If this is the case then press comment over the past few years would appear to indicate that several clubs other than Rangers may well have fallen foul of the soon to be changed historic laws.

    It would also appear that the SPL is once again seeking to invest itself with a power of retrospective penalty beyond that prescribed in its own rules.

    Much has been said and written about EBTs. It should be noted that the tax treatment of these is an issue as yet unresolved and it is wrong to prejudge the outcome.

    It must be stressed that the tax tribunal will determine the appropriate tax treatment in respect of the arrangements operated.

    This is not a criminal matter and there is presently no question as to the legality of these schemes.

    Rangers agreed contracts of employment with its players (and staff). The EBT scheme involved the contribution of funds into an offshore discretionary trust managed by independent trustees.

    The trustees could and did make loans to individuals carrying interest with scheduled repayment dates.

    There was no contractual or beneficial entitlement to the funds on the part of any individual and the monies paid to EBTs were not "remuneration" in terms of any rules applying to the Club.

    Since 2001 when the EBT scheme was introduced, the amounts contributed were disclosed in the audited financial statements of the Club. These audited accounts were provided to the SFA and SPL as required.

    As the law stands, it is the right of every taxpayer to minimise his tax liability.

    For example, taxpayers are entitled to maximise contributions to pension funds and benefit from the resultant tax allowances. Tax AVOIDANCE is a right. It is tax EVASION which is a crime.

    In December 2010, as a result of legislation changes introduced by HMRC, EBTs were rendered tax inefficient. Thereafter the Club made no further contributions to EBTs.

    For the avoidance of doubt, many thousands of employees in many areas of business and commerce have benefited from EBTs.

    Rangers sought only to provide financial security for players (and staff) within the rules of law and football. To suggest that this amounted to cheating in the sporting context is an allegation which is without any foundation.

    I, of course, wish the "new" Rangers every success for the future. I have no doubt that the present generation of players and staff will make a positive and beneficial contribution to the SPL and, in due course, return the Club to a position of pre-eminence in Scottish football.

    However, I am determined to support those who served the Club with such dignity and integrity during my stewardship.
     
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    Brilliant. See he hasn't got over his stewardship.
     
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    While the "Newco" Rangers was rejected for membership of the SPL on the publicly stated grounds of sporting integrity, I would question whether this was the underlying motive for many who took this decision. I am not totally convinced by the explanation that they were reacting to the opinions of the supporters of their individual clubs.
    Paranoid Minty


    The SPL rules variously required disclosure of all contract of service matters and all payments from a club to a player. It would now appear that these are to be rewritten to incorporate non-contractual loans from independent third parties and other non-contractual matters.
    If this is the case then press comment over the past few years would appear to indicate that several clubs other than Rangers may well have fallen foul of the soon to be changed historic laws.
    Deflecting Minty

    Rangers agreed contracts of employment with its players (and staff). The EBT scheme involved the contribution of funds into an offshore discretionary trust managed by independent trustees. The trustees could and did make loans to individuals carrying interest with scheduled repayment dates.
    Lying Minty


    The man has more faces than the town clock.
     
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    I am not totally convinced by the explanation that they were reacting to the opinions of the supporters of their individual clubs.

    Bigotry.
     
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    Classic Murray, I particularly liked how he finished with a bit of "dignity" and "integrity" thrown in - I feel a bit nostalgic.
     
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    Those fools at the Record have even got a picture of Murray brandishing double contracts but still dont know they are onto the real story.
     
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    You bastard Dev when I sent you that picture you swore it was for personal use only!

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    And I told you to shave that beard <grr>
     
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    you should see a doctor about reducing your tablets.
     
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    He's here all week folks.
     
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    actually I may not be as my writing commitments for Lenny Henry are really taking up a lot of my time <ok>
     
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    which genius came out with this party line? I remember amoruso using it as did billy dodds at the weekend. I think what they fail to grasp is that without these dubious tax methods they would not have been able to buy the calibre of player they were buying.
     
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    Billy Dodds has arguably come out of this mess looking the worst.

    He categorically denied he had an EBT live on air (it's on soundcloud if you can be arsed looking for it).

    On Friday and last night with Mark Daly, he was playing the dumb cunt - "I just signed the papers" etc. (which is NOT what he stated last season)

    Mark Daly asked him if he ever paid any of it back or if he was made aware that this was a loan that should be paid back.

    Dodged it (and not very well).

    Either he was informed of that or he wasn't - well paid professional people probably aren't too close to the ins and outs of their contracts but whether part of it is to be paid back is not a small matter "for my accountants to deal with".

    If you're on that much money, you probably don't know the minutae of how you get paid.

    Whether a big chunk of it is to paid back over any sort of term, though, is not a technicality.
     
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    They are circling the wagons, Dodds, Murray, MCoist and Walter have all come out and made statements basically saying the same thing, and all in the last few days.

    One would think they are worried.
     
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