"Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers was prepared to swap midfielder Jordan Henderson, winger Stewart Downing or left-back Jose Enrique to land Fulham striker Clint Dempsey, who instead moved to Tottenham" I read this on the BBC Gossip pages today; that Rogers was willing to go to these lengths to secure Dempsey and it struck me like the players were being used like commodities rather than human beings. I wonder if Henderson, Downing or Enrique (all of whom only signed up to the Liverpool project 12 months since) were either asked or consulted. We often talk about the mercenary nature of modern footballers and there can be no doubt they are but sometimes itâs the clubs who drive this as well. I donât think any of the above relocated, uprooted their connections with their former employers, just to then move on another 200 miles away inside 14 months? To me, it shows that Rodgers and Liverpool along with him, are just pissing into the wind as a partnership and desperation has led to this rather impersonal dumping of Carroll, Downing, Henderson and now seemingly Enrique at the whim of the manager. It smacks of poor practice by manager and club imo and no wonder players are so cynical and unfeeling these days and players and fans are as distant as at any other time in recent memory.
Just the thing to make the said players bust a gut for Liverpool too. No wonder some players turn up just for the money.
can anyone remember raking round to find pop bottles to return to the shops to get the 3d deposit back. Sadly no matter how many bins Liverpool dipped into they couldn't raise enough to buy Dempsey. How the mighty have fallen.
He got a bit desperate towards the end of the window did Brendan, he really couldn't have gone about his business any worse than he did. The players he has tried to offload over the past two months will have no desire to play for him any more either, he came out and said "we can't afford £35m substitutes and wingers on £5-£6m a year (Downing obviously)", but Downing is still there, as are Henderson and Enrique, they must turn up for work thinking 'what's the point?'. You mentioned about 3/4 months ago Cest, that you genuinely believed Sunderland were a more attractive proposition than Liverpool and at the time, I was inclined to disagree somewhat but didn't literally disagree because I'm not going to defend that circus, but I'm genuinely in agreement with you now, in terms of direction, they're way behind you. I do think they'll continue to attract a higher calibre (or at least be linked to them) player though, because of who they are, but give it a few years. Spurs signing Sigurdsson and Dempsey is two massive nails in their dustbin-shaped coffin.
You're right about them pissing into the wind, mate. The daft thing is they're wondering why their trousers are wet
He doesn't come over too well Brendan. I'll give him till Christmas. The bin dippers are already whinging about him on TalkShite radio.
I don't know when Liverpool went on the slide, they were in bother before Roy Hodgson arrived and of course King Kenny was a complete disaster, I think it goes a lot deeper than just the managers, the boardroom have been at odds for years now since the football pools owner was in charge, then loosing Parry as CEO didn't help. There is an underlying arrogance amongst the fans,going back to early sixties when Bill Shankly took charge, they will not let the Hillsborough incident go, and even now live on their past glories, I think this touting of players to other clubs in an effort to attract so called better players is an absolute disgrace, yes all clubs have offered players as a make weight in transfer deals but when your talking about two of your supposedly better younger players for whom you have paid out huge sums smacks of this arrogance. In life what comes around goes around and I can see Liverpool returning to the obscure non entity they were prior to Mr Shankly, on recent goings on at the club that slide could well be an out of control slip down a very steep hill
You are absolutely spot on. They love to wallow in their own self pity & live on past glories. That said mind, the Liverpool teams of the late 70's, early 80's was the best football I ever saw.
Losing Parry didn't help ? The guy wasn't nicknamed Coco the Clown for positive reasons. If ever there was proof someone didn't know what they were actually talking about, its that part of your post... And why should the families of the dead at Hillsborough lie down and accept the lies and incompetence of the police at the time and accept the lies the S*n printed on that day?
Well Lucaas your reply has just confirmed everything I said, and even today you still bring out the Sun newspaper as some sort of holy mantra, it is time Liverpool and its supporters moved on, but going by your little snippet I shan't be holding my breath.
Is that what you'd have said to Jean Charles De Menezes and Ian Tomlinson's families if no one was held accountable for their deaths and they were protesting to change that?
How insensitive; perhaps when your 10 year old son is killed, and then has his name (along with those who were there) dragged through the mud in a tabloid newspaper, all whilst knowing it could have been prevented had the police taken the necessary action, then perhaps you'll have a better understanding of where all Liverpool fans are coming from. We don't pay them respect to cling to the past, we pay them respect because they deserve it!
I have no wish too drag all this up again but to blame the police solely for all that happened that day is totally wrong, matters were not helped by the hundreds if not thousands of Liverpool fans who got into the ground by causing the gates to be opened,how you cannot see there is blame on all parts in this sad affair, something which I have never heard anyone from your club admit. End of as far as I'm concerned.
Ignorant and disrespectful; a losing combination. I expected better from a 63 year old, including a bit of empathy. End of as far as I'm concerned.
Untill Liverpool fans hold their hands up & accept partial responsibility for Hillsborough all they'll get from me is apathy. How often do you hear them bleating on about Hysel?
Henry. The answer to that one is NEVER. The events at Hillsborough were terrible but **** happens and you have to move on, you cannot live the rest of your lives looking for someone else to blame or take away your responsibility, life just isn't like that. My being ignorant or disrespectful isn't the issue as I consider myself neither I consider myself a realist, I could go on but finally wish to draw a line under this issue.
All true again. Bradford City was terrible too but I dont hear Bradford fans blaming South Yorkshire police or the ground staff for not picking up the **** from under the old wooden stands at Valley Parade. I remember it as if it were yesterday. Watching World Of Sport with my dad. The pictures of that pollis running across the pitch with his hair on fire will live with me forever.
The standing area was not over capacity, so the people who say there were ticketless fans trying to turn up are way off the mark. And if you read the government report on the disaster it found that the main reason for the disaster was lack of police control. But why has all the information been covered up, why has no one been held accountable for it?
Ze, it always surprises me but age doesn't seem to prevent people from being stupid or ignorant! Infact, it seems the older some people get the more moronic and ignorant they are. They'll refuse to entertain any suggestion or idea that doesn't conform with their view on things.
