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McInnes? S Lansdown? The Board? The Players

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Shinycitylad7, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Shinycitylad7

    Shinycitylad7 Looking at the stars mate

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    Or All Of The Above


    Who is to blame?
     
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  2. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    You forgot Lee Johnson..
     
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  3. Shinycitylad7

    Shinycitylad7 Looking at the stars mate

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    <laugh> .
     
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  4. Premiershiporbust....

    Premiershiporbust.... Active Member

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    Today, it was SOD for not trying to kill Wolves offf
     
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  5. Shinycitylad7

    Shinycitylad7 Looking at the stars mate

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    If we had SOD from the beginning I don't think we would be in this mess. Im not talking about today, Im taking about this season. So many problems. So little time :(
     
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  6. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    The lousy decisions made by our board over the last 4 years look like they are going to kill us off finally.

    The managerial decisions today could be our final undoing but the rot had set in many years previous.
     
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  7. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I find it frankly ****ing appalling that at 2-1 down when Albert went down the wing and put a cross into the box there wasn't a single City player in Wolves area....

    I mean really, WTF ???????????

    Lads I reckon we're going down
     
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  8. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    We are not where we are because of SOD and todays game that's for sure....
    You know my feelings......It is all down to the board if we get relegated..
     
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  9. ibodyslamrhinos

    ibodyslamrhinos Active Member

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    In my opinion, even if we had SOD from the start of the season, at best we would be mid table. I've been to four away games under SOD, and I'm not going anymore, today was the final straw. As the man shows no desire to win the game, and picks a side that might get us a draw, and other than an absolutely shambolic Blackpool, it's not worked once! I've done Blackpool, Blackburn, Cardiff and today at Wolves. 3 of those games we could have easily have won had we wanted to try and perform like we have at home.

    SOD sealed our fate today, and HE needs to look in the mirror at his tactics, as away from home they haven't worked for him besides a Blackpool side that our reserves could have got a draw against. It's a shame as I think he clearly has a lot of talent as a manager, but he doesn't have the bottle to play his way every game, playing scared like we do away just sets us up for failure. I can now see why Forest got rid of him and brought in Billy Davies, they wanted someone with some fight and passion, as methodical and safe wasn't working. It will only achieve mid table or within touching distance of playoffs.

    Today
     
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  10. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Funny you should say that ibodyslam, our regional sales manager is a massive Florest fan and he said the same about SoD. He's great at looking good but don't have a plan b, he set's up his away games too focused on the opposition that he try's to sneak 1-0 or draw's.
    He will get it I'm sure next season and I'm glad he's here, but please Sean have a go if they beat us having a go we don't mind. When we went 1-0 to a comical goal they were on the ropes and if you was a boxer you wouldn't let the opponent off to compose themselves. We came out in that second half and listening to it on the radio you could tell we sat back and invited them onto us, you could sense they would not carry on blazing over and they would score.
     
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  11. ibodyslamrhinos

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    Couldn't agree more RedorDead... When they went 1-0, we actually saw fans walking out!!!!!!!!!! And in the early second half their fans were really getting on there backs, and an uppercut from us would not only of killed the game, but killed off Wolves for the season I think. They would have had zero confidence and been favorites to go down. Instead we invited them back into the game. And like you say, I don't mind losing if we give it a real go, but its so disheartening to lay down and die like we did today. Huge fan of SOD, but he has upset me big time today, and for the first time in YEARS I am blaming the manager not the players. Poor Albert didn't have a clue what he should be doing when he came on.
     
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  12. Lan Logger

    Lan Logger Well-Known Member

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    Well, do you blame mciness for buying poor players, running this club into the ground with his "management" or do you blame the board for appointing him??

    What came first the chicken or the egg
     
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  13. ibodyslamrhinos

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    I don't think McInnes' signings were too bad, some of them have been bloody good, he just had no idea how to train them, organise them, or select them effectively to make a solid team... The board tried to be ambitious by bringing him in. But ALL their managerial decisions have been poor. Should have dumped GJ long before pretty much ALL the players refused to put in any kind of performance for him. Then an unstable, and mentally unbalanced Coppout, then an inexperienced Millen who is only ever going to be a first team coach at best, then a man with no managerial experience in England.

    Lansdown needs REAL football people to run his club, not shirt and ties who don't know anything about the game. Suits don't know what they are doing, football savvy professionals do.
     
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  14. tiger-emyrs-wolf

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    Oh no. After a decent run of 4 games, and an unbeaten home record unsurpassed in the Division, the moaners have already stated to get on the Manager's back. I really don't believe what i am reading. No wonder we can't attract and keep quality players (Neil Danns scored today I see). And when we get a good manager, people start to critiscise him. Have you NEVER made a mistake at work?

    I think this might be the end of me reading and contributing to this board. I was down yesterday. Now reading this, in the words of Duncan Ballantyne, I'M OUT.
     
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  16. ibodyslamrhinos

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    So we can't criticize or point out the "mistakes" you just mentioned Sean made yesterday??? You obviously didn't pay £100 and give up a rare saturday off yesterday to go watch your team submit themselves to look for a draw. Yes I am moaning, because yesterday was a big deal for me! I don't want Sean gone, I think he is a great manager, when has ANYONE on this board said SOD out?????????? You moron! No one has said that, they are all stating a justified disappointment in the fact that he made a huge HUGE mistake in possibly THE MOST IMPORTANT game of the season. If you can't see that, and think that that performance was worthy of someone giving up their saturday and £100, then yes, maybe you don't have anything worthwhile contributing to this board glen!
     
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  17. glenngregory

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    Clever huh, calling me a moron? You are upset and I am too. But we all too easily fall into 'blame this, blame that' mode when pointing the finger of fault makes us a group of supporters look foolish. We need to be together, not divided. I didnt spend £100 on going to Wolves, as I found it impossible to get a ticket. I may well have spent £100 on continuously checking the scores on my mobile, and drowning my sorrows in the pub. But that is none of your business.

    If you cant have a reasoned debate without coming out with personal taunts and insults, from one City supporter to another, then you are right - i dont want to contribute to a board that you are associated with.
     
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  18. Oldsparkey

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    Cool it Glenn mate - it ain't worth it arguing with each other at this time. <ok>

    Look guys - I've been reading a bit over here but not contributing until I saw Hawky's thread hilariously mentioning lamb.

    This blame culture that you seem to be debating - it has got to start at the top. Respective owners set their stall out and guide their clubs not only with managerial appointments, but also the support they then provide them.

    A case in point stares us in the face this past week. We lost both our first choice CBs Mark Hudson and Ben Turner with ankle injuries. Malky said he needed some strengthening for his back four, and within 3 days VT sent him a Premier CB Leon Barnet on loan from Norwich.

    Sean is given a recovery job and asks for some strengthening for his back 4, and SL says OK, and sends him a box of ****ing tomatoes.

    Your owner is to blame for not replacing McInnes early enough, and then charging Sean with an unsupported task that ****ing Hercules would baulk at.

    I'm not having a go at the supporters - far from it, it's just that the buck stops in Guernsey guys, and I suspect a lot of you know it.
     
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  19. ibodyslamrhinos

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    THIS IS FOOTBALL GLENN!!! We are allowed to have opinions and say what we think. So after all that effort and money I spent yesterday, I am supposed to walk away and say "oh well, we are likely to get relegated, but hopefully we will learn from our mistakes and do better next year" and smile? Whats the point in having any passion or ambition or supporting your club if thats how you feel. Its that kind of mentality from the likes of GJ and Millen that got us into the mire in the first place. Not learning from mistakes and doing the same thing over and over. If you dont point out the obvious short fallings, and dont write something of how you feel then whats the point in this board?? Should we just all be writing the same thing? "Oooo it was a jolly good day out and yes we lost and now find ourselves favorites for relegation, but didn't the boys look smart in their kits?" and just ignore the obvious? Doesnt work like that Glen.

    Sorry for the moron comment, it was unneccasary, but if you saw what I saw yesterday, and what I've seen for 4 games out of 4 under SOD, you would be livid.

    I think SOD has done tremendous job so far, but we may as well of had McInnes in charge if he wants to play the type of football we played yesterday.
     
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  20. glenngregory

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    OK IB, i wasnt there, so I can't pass comment on that. Though I do believe he would have been damned if he had gone for another goal with two up front and we had lost as well. Football management is about gambles - Saunders took off his keeper and had to play the 2nd half without any subs. If they had suffered further injuries, he would have been the one facing severe critiscism. But they didnt and he comes out looking like a good manager (which he is not) with all 3 points.

    Of course its about opinions, and half of us on here would have stuck, and half would have twisted. I am not even sure SoD was doing what HE thought was best. He likes Kilkenny's style of play but kept him on the bench and went for a tighter team - less flair, more defensive. But we started the day bottom of the table, and if other results had gone our way, a draw, or better still a nicked 3 points on a goalkeeping error, would have been plenty to cheer. So what would any of us have done? You would have attacked, whilst I might have sat back and said that with 3 clean sheets recently, we can do it again.

    Old Sparkey - you made me laugh. For ths first time since 4.30 yesterday afternoon. Maybe more at you, than with you. But you can't resist a quick kick when the man is down. Your time will come...
     
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