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McClaren to have a Re-think!

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toon_Man_Sam1, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. Toon_Man_Sam1

    Toon_Man_Sam1 Well-Known Member

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    Dont worry guys Scteeve is set to have a re-think

    “We need to start collecting points away from home because winning at home but then losing away is not going to be good enough,”
    “We have to find a way to win away from home because, at the moment, that’s not happening.” “If that’s a different approach, or different personnel, then we’ll have to do that.”
    “It might mean a different way of playing.” “That’s why we are where we are – we’re inconsistent,”
    “There’s a lot of games where we’ve kind of performed but not scored goals, but we’re losing games because we’re not scoring enough goals and we’re not keeping clean sheets.
    “We have to somehow solve that.”



    Actually? wait a minute, what has he said? He basically alluded to all our problems in our away games are due to not being attacking enough! WTF is this guy on? what is he watching!

    The fact we cant keep a clean sheet for sh!t away from home basically means we dont win!
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    The guy is way way way out of his depth. We are conceding too many goals and not scoring enough? Genius.Just put him out of his misery, this is not fair on anyone.

    I notice he still manages to get a positive when there isn't one "kind of performed". I suppose its more of an admission than previously where we were great. Perhaps next week reality will strike "we're ****e"
     
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  3. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be under the impression he thinks?
     
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  4. Albert's Chip Shop

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    **** it. Why not go all out attack lads?
    If we are gonna go down I'd like to see us go down at least having a go.

    I'd play 2 up top personally and maybe Gini or Perez in 'the hole'.
     
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  5. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Next 4 home games all have to be wins! Alongside a couple of away draws!
     
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  6. LiamO

    LiamO Well-Known Member

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    "Judge me after 10 games", he said. Well Steve, I will judged you again, but after 10mins of the Chelsea game, and I came to the same conclusion as I had previously. You have not got a fcuking clue mate. How you are still in this job is beyond my comprehension. You sicken me beyond thought!

    CNUT!!!!
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    You know who gave Adam Johnson his debut? Enough said.
     
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  8. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Well that's the thing, it IS going to be good enough, we have 6 home games left and if we win all those we'll stay regardless of whether we lose all the away games.

    But we won't win all those. Because we're rubbish.

    Good ole McClaren, yes let's palm this off as some away game hoodoo jinx that we've got, rather than acknowledging we're playing like a bunch of doughnuts, and your local pub team would be embarassed by that performance on Saturday.

    And the emperious home form? Only managing to scrape a 1-0 against a diabolical West Brom team, being held 1-1 by Villa the worst team in the Prem, and losing 0-1 to an average Everton side...and that's before he get on to early in the season being thumped by Leicester and outclassed by Watford at home.

    McClaren interviews:
    50% PR stoodge + 50% nonsensical drivel = 100% twat
     
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  9. YankMag

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    Honestly, it would be terrible if we went down now that we've finally spent some money. I really wouldn't mind if Steve came out like Tony pukis for away games and played for a draw. Play very defensive with doumbia up top and hope we can Nick one when they get too aggressive.
     
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  10. Captainchaos.

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    Oh well then were ****ed
     
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  11. Lord Jonjomort

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    But we're the victims of systemic failure here. We may well try and "do a Pulis", which won't work because copying another team can never yield success. You have to either go with a gameplan and build the team you need, or go with the players and build a system that works. We fall somewhere in the middle; a manager with no clear idea aside from copying the biggest teams in the world, and a transfer policy of buying to sell. Even when the manager then gets some input, he's trying to implement a flawed gameplan of high possession, acute attacking as seen at Arsenal, Man City and Chelsea - we aren't those clubs, we can't buy Ozil, Aguero, Toure, Matic, Costa, Willian or any players near the level required to take the game to the opposition - we're mid-table "aspirers" and should be fundamentally being hard to beat first, counter-attacking second. The time to take a game to the opposition is with years of consistency, then a sprinkling of quality youth products, which is where Spurs are today.

    Our best record under Ashley was when Pardew played counter-attacking football with some competent defenders and fast attackers. It was simple, sometimes ugly, but with some consistency, some luck and some ridiculous downfalls elsehwhere at Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool we got to fifth. Then the arrogance came in. Then came the idea we should be on the front foot, with some average/poor players. Once you start to do that, the "lesser" teams will pick you off on the counter, the "better" teams will simply run rings around you. The only time we've ever looked comfortable on the "front foot" is in the Championship, when our squad was at least twice that of the nearest competition.

    All of this has been obvious and known for years. The lack of investment or attempt to build a squad has hit us time and again, but with just a modicum of awareness it would have been easy to miss relegation by a mile this year. We seem terminally uninterested in the opposition - we try front foot against Leicester, picked off. Do it three times against Watford, beaten each time. 28 times in three seasons we've been beaten by 3 or more - how we're still in the division is unfathomable; how the people who have diced with death are still employed (MD, DOF, Captain) is laughable. It's all so depressingly avoidable, yet one cannot understate how stupid the people at the top simply have to be - there's no longer any explanation.
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Our fans can't deal with too much counter attack. Remember all the **** that was dished out when we played counter attack. Whenever we lost we became "hoofball, look at the possession stats" etc etc. Look at Leicester under Raneri, I've seen games where they have literally had about 25% possession for long periods. Its like Raneri has gone to his Italian roots for a bit of catenaccio.

    To me I'd be happy if we just had a plan and that plan was attractive the majority of the time. The only thing I can't stand is what we are being served up again this season, crap football with zero planning or direction.

    We had it at times under Pardew, we got it all the time from Carver, and now McClaren is taking it to a similar extreme as Carver (bar the odd bit meaningless tippy tappy along the backline to boost our possession)

    The thought process is non existent. Saturday - why did Colback not start left back? He has experience of playing there over a decent period in this division. Its like McClaren wants to mentally break Aarons. Stupid. I don't care what excuse is given, that was ridiculous. He had Lascelles fit also. So the 3 at the back option was there. Taking off Gini. He wasn't great but again he was misused and Sissoko was again protected. He's ****ing untouchable that bloke. Laziest man on the planet, completely clueless, massively overrated, yet McClaren treats him like its his love child or they are having a fling. I wish he would **** Steve, that way someone else like Cathro can take over while he recovers from the internal injuries he would suffer and Sissoko would catch some kind of hideous gingeritis.

    I can accept getting beat when the other team has better players. When there is simply not enough effort or the manager is basically ****ing you from the inside then no, I don't enjoy my Saturdays.
     
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  13. Lord Jonjomort

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    All we can hope is that McClaren has some kind of awakening. I refuse to accept anyone's that stupid. Even he must look back at the match and thing "fck me, how badly wrong did I get that?".

    We need to be basic. We have 12 games. Anyone with a "relegation escape" pedigree would simply revert to basics. If Moyes came in, or Rodgers, the first thing to disappear would be 4-5-1 tippy-tappo (or whatever the fck it's called). Nuts to that. First thing - two banks of four. 18 days straight, they should be practising in partnerships. Mbemba/Taylor would be my preference - make a fcking statement and drop Colo the clown. Colback or Dummett/Townsend on the left, Janmaat/Sissoko have a good enough understanding on the right (don't get me wrong, we just don't have options and I'm sure we agree Sissoko MUST be sold this Summer). Shelvey/Saivet or Shelvey/Colback in the middle, Mitrovic/De Jong or Gini or Perez up front. Stick with it, but be mindful of your subs, have them in mind already. Shore things up if winning by swapping Perez for Tiote when you're winning or holding on for a draw, bring Gini on for a DM when you're behind - have plans, but start every match with a familiar and strong line up.

    Leicester are top playing 4-4-2 with some decidedly average, but incredibly fit, players. Nobody needs to play 4-2-3-1 unless you're in the Champions League. Watford, West Ham do well playing 4-4-2. Man U, Liverpool fck about with 4-2-3-1 and are poorer for it. We need to go to Stoke, grow balls, and play a formation that works for Newcastle United - no personal agendas, no blind loyalty, just play wingers, play partnerships and win a fcking few games.
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    There will be no awakening mate - there will be only more of this

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    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    He's got a lovely smile though...............<laugh>
     
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  16. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    He looks like Mr. Ed.
     
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  17. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    I have a feeling this man is a complete and utter bottomfeeder.
     
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  18. Seabass

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    Absolutely rediculous quote. This just gives more weight to the quote that he is a training ground coach and not a football manager.

    Surely at this level a fundamental part of management is understanding how to manage the situation you are presented with. I don't think there is enough work put into actually beating the opposition we are faced with on any given week. Recognising both teams strengths and weaknesses and understanding how to deal with situations like going behind early. We just have one plan. Very few teams are in a position where they can play everyone off the park because they are so good at controlling the ball.

    I actually think you can see that the team are better coached with the ball. But it's not enough. You have got to be adaptable.
     
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  19. ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

    ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter Well-Known Member

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    There's a place just up the road from here called Cheese Bottom. It may explain a lot.
     
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  20. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    I think he part horse
     
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