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Match rating Vs Watford

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  1. South Africa Road Block F

    South Africa Road Block F Active Member

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  2. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    I would disagree with Barton being "composed on the ball". I thought he gave it away unnecessarily an awful lot.
     
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  3. Queenslander!!

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    Simpson is a 6 and Barton a 7...Bollox

    What is this, Joeys personal paper...

    as for the rest....dubious to say the least...Green yes, the rest very subjective.

    Each to thier own and all that !! <ok>
     
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    Seven is about right for Joey. It was not one of his best matches but that neat freekick does the trick.
     
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    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    If the average is around 6-7 then a 5 for Simpson seems harsh to me. That average itself is unwarrented however; personally I would have marked any of the 11 starters at least a couple of points below these ratings to reflect a truly awful 70 minutes or so.
     
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    I wouldn't class it as a 3-5-2 formation. To me it's a 5-3-2. I say this because those wing backs aren't able to move up continuously and play like full blown wingers; they have defensive roles. And that is why I didn't understand the choice of formation at home to Watford. It doesn't really work. It's one of those formations that you really have to work at and keep over several games, not pull out of the hat occasionally (at ****ing home to Watford!!!!).
     
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  7. Swords Hoopster.

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    COL was right. He should have just stuck to his 4-5-1 and duked it out with them in the middle of the field.
     
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  8. QPR Oslo

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    And wasn't it used at the føkking home game too that League 1 Promotion candidate Blackpool as well?! Arry has lost it, he's lost me anyway... Just hope it is all part of a very cunning plan that sees us winning at Wembley next month.
     
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  9. Flyer

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    Would have given Doyle a 5 and Simpson a 6.

    A 6 to me is average, a defender you don't notice or an attacker that did OK.

    Doyle offered nothing at all and Simpson didn't make any Dunne type mistakes.
     
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  10. Flyer

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    You are giving him too much credit, if we go up, it will be despite him.
    Look at the last game, 75 mins of total dross that everyone could see wasn't working, except him.
    Luckily Watford had to go for a win or it would have been a draw.
    He just tries random formations and players every week.
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster.

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    Sorry but that's just bullsh*t. No team can win promotion despite the Manager FFS.

    You're hedging your bets as usual.
     
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  12. QPR Oslo

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    <laugh>. I'm hoping! That it is Arry's cunning plan that we go up this way is out of Black Adder or Monty Python.
     
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  13. awjm

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    I am like Flyer Lite at the moment.

    I think if we go up it's largely down to the players, more so than it is down to HR. But we'd have done much better with a better manager. He hasn't done that well, in my opinion and, for me, he's not good enough for us no matter what league we're in. He's not absolutely ****. We've had much worse managers but I would want him to part ways with us at the end of the campaign.
     
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  14. Flyer

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    You're not the only one, there's threads right across the boards and most want him gone no matter what, even if we go up.

    I posted in another thread, us sneaking up in the playoffs is like man city getting into the Europa league considering we have the largest budgets in the league.
     
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  15. Swords Hoopster.

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    Largely down to the players than Redknapp brought in? Or largely down to the players we've been moaning about all season for not having the determination or drive required?

    The fact is, if Redknapp brings us up he will have achieved his objective and will be one of only 25% of teams that bounce right back up following relegation. 75% fail - some never recover. We could have sank like a stone but to be fair to him he changed the entire squad in one window and got us into the Playoffs so far.

    Having said all that, I do have sympathy with your position (not Flyer's. He's a Muppet). I do think that the players are better than what we're seeing and that's partly down to Harry playing them all over the shop. But then again, another Manager could have come in, got us playing lovely pretty football, but had us leaking like a siv at the back. Some of our fans would probably prefer us losing pretty than winning ugly. I'm not convinced that we could have got both attractive and winning with this squad at this particular juncture considering the total and utter shambles we were in at the end of last season. Words can't do justice to how rotten that squad was.

    If Redknapp gets us up, he's done fantastic. If not, he's failed miserably. That's how much hinges on the upcoming competition. Nothing else matters much this season really.
     
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    You make very good points.

    I do agree that Harry has done a good job at changing the team around. I guess that was his objective coming in and especially at the beginning of the season. Maybe he has that advantage. If Hughes had been brought in under the condition that he sorts the team out, gets rid of the wasters and finds quality but determined players, things might have gone differently. So I think different conditions were put in front of Redknapp and he has that benefit thanks to how lousy our previous managers have been. But he's done that part of the job well.
    As I've already said, I will be grateful if he gets us up. He's done one part of his job very well. But as a tactician he is empty. He simply seems to have nothing to show, on that front. At no point have I thought he's a bad fellow but I have been frustrated at the fact that he has often been unable to see problems that are blindingly obvious to everyone else, including all the pundits, media men and supporters.
     
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    Simpson was a 6 for me. Barton gets 7 ONLY because he scored a good free kick.
    Carroll was never a 6 though........his worst game so far, although a lot of it was down to the stupid formation that led to him and Barton being swamped in midfield. Carroll was a 5 at best for me.

    I agree that Ned was MOTM.
     
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