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Transfer Rumours Marrony Inbound

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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Reminds me of my favourite red wine... Amarone. Equally as expensive.


    https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/07/24/do-report-suggests-31m-marrony-is-keen-on-newcastle-move/

    Club-record signing Joelinton might not be the only Brazilian striker on his way to Newcastle United this summer.

    Reports in South America broke yesterday via GloboEsporte claiming that Vasco da Gama prodigy Marrony was on the radar of the Tyneside club. Steve Nickson, Newcastle’s head of recruitment, apparently travelled to Brazil to watch the 20-year-old in action.

    Suitably impressed, the Magpies are expected to launch a bid in the coming days.

    And, on Wednesday, the Chronicle backed up these claims. Just to add to the excitement surrounding what could be a real star of the future, the report suggests that Marrony could choose to play for Newcastle rather than clubs in Italy and Portugal, where he is not short of suitors.

    Understandably, the Premier League represents a huge opportunity for a youngster like Marrony, who surely would have watched on in awe as compatriots like Richarlison went from little-known wonder-kids to established top level forwards on English shores.

    The report adds that Marrony has a £31 million release-clause in his contract though Vasco da Gama are expected to sell for less.

    Report: Newcastle could bid for £31m forward after Steve Nickson's scouting mission
    And while Joelinton will offer height and presence in attack after the departure of Salomon Rondon, perhaps Marrony could add the same speed and skill provided by Ayoze Perez.
     
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  2. Santaseyebrow

    Santaseyebrow Well-Known Member

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    Its happening! All of a sudden the stadium the dressing rooms look flash and were spending big money... i think its a case of making signings before the takeover to avoid prices going up.

    Got to be
     
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    It's happening
     
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  4. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Why would we pay another fortune for another unproven striker? Joelinton doesn't even have a full Brazil cap and we paid crazy money for him, but at least he's played a few seasons. This guy's played 40 games, and scored 6 goals in his career. Why would we go for a pre-school strikeforce?
     
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  5. Albert's Chip Shop

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  6. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    **** that if the club want to shell another £30m out on a brazilian forward of different ilk to the one we just signed, I'm all for it. Why would fans complain about this? Are we now saying Rondon and Perez were world beaters. I'm sure Joelinton and this fella would be upgrades if anything. We have to replace them at the end of the day and we will have to think outside the box because we don't have the pull to bag recognised strikers guaranteeing goals.
     
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  7. cronemeister

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    Or would we rather have Sturridge, Welbeck or Austin on a free? I'd take Austin mind as cover, don't think either of the other two would be happy being a squad player.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I doubt any of them would accept it at their age. Would Sturridge or Welbeck even want to play for Newcastle? With all due respect to ourselves, I think they'll both think they are better than that. Austin yeah but I'd have serious reservations about him personally. Injury prone, wrong side of 30, seems to be hinting he would sit and see his contract out. He doesn't sound that motivated to me.
     
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    Bruce said they're eyeing about 3 or 4 signings. Apparently the cash was there for Rafa but they had different ideas.

    Rumours banging around that Rafa wanted older players and the club wanted younger ones, I can see both sides.

    Reality of our situation is clubs like us, Southampton and others have to buy smart and sell smarter. If we sign for example Joelinton for the amount we did and by 26 he's a premier league proven striker with a good record, we can sell easily for 60-80 mil.

    It's good because we can now sign players regularly but bad because we lose them as soon as they get really good.
     
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  10. Santaseyebrow

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    Once the takeover is confirmed that will all change .
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Are you saying we are selling all of our best players moving forward... what next after that.. relegation? :angel:<yikes>
     
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    Just sayin' that if we spending 30/40m I'd rather it be on strikers I've actually heard of.

    While Rondon and Perez might not have been Messi and Ronaldo, they were proven Prem goal scorers. If we spend big on a young relatively unknown striker with no Prem experience, there's always the danger of getting another Luque/Andersson/Cabella/Cordone/Xisco.
     
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    If we kept rondon and perez then bought joelinton it would be progress
     
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    Neither Rondon nor Perez were proven anything before the start of last season. We risked them.

    Rondon had a worse than 1 in 4 record for WBA. Sometimes it just works at certain clubs. I think we have signed a proven quality striker in Joelinton. The lad is 22 and has a similar record to Rondon in terms of ratios. But its been done in Germany which is notoriously tricky to get goals. He is 22 so he has massive potential still. Put it this way if someone said you can have Rondon or Joelinton, I'd have gone the latter all day long. With this one of course you'd pick Perez as a known quantity finally coming good, but I think overall I'd be happy heading in with these instead of Perez and Rondon who were both out of our hands anyway. Both have gone where they wanted too, and I'm glad that the club is making an effort for once to replace them.

    There is always a danger, but this is what the scouts are paid very well to get right. If we are going to be risk averse we will never progress. We've got a good forward line in Almiron and Joelinton. If we can add a one for the future I think its great work. I'd maybe like one proven body, but being honest who is there? Sturridge, Carroll, Welbeck, Austin? Is it a bigger risk going for a young lad who will stay fit than it is for proven players who are unlikely to be able to play more than 15 games at best?

    Who are the strikers people have heard of we think we could get for 30m/40m? I can't think of any really. Not realistic for Newcastle. Because of where we've fallen too, its a case of trying to get a few under the radar.
     
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    We need 3 more strikers tbh having lost 3 and being short previously
     
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  16. Warmir Pouchov

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    That's not realistic. We have Joelinton, Gayle - We are only going to play one so you'd think max of one more. I imagine Muto, Almiron, Scott will be all battling it out to support the main striker. I don't think if you play one up front its sensible to have more than 3 main centre forwards. They just wouldn't get the game time.

    Even if we didn't sign another striker, I wouldn't be massively worried.
     
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  17. Santaseyebrow

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    Why ? 3 -2 =1 1+1 =2 3+1 = 4
     
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  18. Warmir Pouchov

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    We had Rondon, Joselu, Perez

    We now have Joelinton, Gayle.

    We're one short at most. When you consider we also have other attacking options in Aarons, Almiron and Muto - I don't think we need more than one. Maybe two if we manage to flog Gayle.

    I'm more worried about our midfield which is short on quality in all but the ball playing role (Longstaff and Shelvey is good IMO). We lack a quality ball winner, and we lack more wide options. Eventually we'll have to get round to the full backs too as ours are decidedly average.
     
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  19. Santaseyebrow

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    So you admit im right hahaha .


    Why not simply agree in the first place...lol
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

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    No you're wrong. You want another 3 or 4 strikers. Far too many.
     
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