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Mark Clattenburg

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Dilligaf, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    Just wondering what everyone's take on this is as it emerged today that the police are taking no action as they say there is no evidence and no victim

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20319926


    In light of what appears to be false accusations made against him what action, if any should be taken against Chelsea and or Mikel ?

    The bottom line is that a referee has not plyed his trade for coming up to three weeks now. Stating the obvious but if there's no refs then you can't have a game and I can't help but wonder if the FA will want to stop this sort of thing in the future and come down hard on Chelsea.
     
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  2. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    If there is no proof by either side then there is no option than to drop the matter...
     
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  3. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    Do you think the FA will also drop it now Dai ?
     
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  4. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    The issues here had nothing to do with football. Football was used by the Society of Black Lawyers to promote themselves and their agenda. Based on third party evidence - Mikel didn't even hear Clattenburg make the remarks, and translated from a foreign language, the remarks were deemed to be racist.

    The Society for Black Lawyers jumped on the bandwagon and a politically correct FA had to show it was taking racism seriously.

    Unfortunately for the S of BL there was NO racism. Clattenburg has been hounded for weeks because of people who have nothing to do with football pursuing their own political aims.

    Shame on them.
     
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  5. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    I didn't even know this society of black lawyers even existed until this. Just imagine a society of white lawyers ! Perish the thought.
    Personally I do feel sorry for the ref and I would have no problem with him reffing the Swans. No ref is perfect but at least he's honest and no racist either
     
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  6. glamexile

    glamexile Well-Known Member

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    Definitely a case of the S of BL using this as a platform but what were Chelsea thinking of when they lodged it directly with the Met Police - another home goal at the Bridge.
     
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  7. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    Don't underestimate the power of some outside influences at work here glam.
     
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  8. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Clattenburg is a bit of a paradox, he has been in trouble in the Premiership before, and was disciplined and sent to the Championship for a spell, when we were there (Hell that sounds nice), and he can be great, or he can be very controversial, not sure what it is about him, but I don't doubt he's a dedicated guy, but hell he can go off on one in a match! Mind he's a million light years better than Stuart Atwell..................<laugh>
     
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  9. glamexile

    glamexile Well-Known Member

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    Just for the record I said above that Chelsea lodged a complaint directly with the Met Police it was of course the FA not the Met
     
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  10. SA9JACK

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    It was the society of black lawyers who reported it to the met despite the lack of evidence because they felt they had a duty to line their pockets...er I mean they felt they had a duty to involve the police because the allegation had been made.
    I can see these people doing more harm than good regarding racism. Imagine a scenario where a club avoids black players because it's just not worth the hassle. Extreme I know, but if these guys take it to their extreme, who knows?
     
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  11. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    And now the latest is that they're saying football is sweeping racism under the carpet because the police have dropped it. Unbelievable !!
     
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  12. campionijack

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    The "society of black lawyers" - surely this in itself is overtly racist *by definition* ?????
     
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  13. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    the question is why to the blacks have to feel inferior, they all play the same game and its always racist comments by whites against the blacks, harden up black dudes because noone seems to complain about your racist comments v whites
     
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  14. SA9JACK

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  15. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    For your information guys, I was told the words Clattenburg used when Mikel questioned a decision were "I don't give a monkeys about that Mikel". The phrase "I don't give a monkeys" is in common and garden use in our language and is no way racist. If in translation it turned into something else then that is the problem of the translator and the person receiving that translation. Maybe he could have chosen his words better but in the heat of a Chelsea/Man U game it is not always possible to think of the right politically correct phrase.

    I don't like Clattenburg for other reasons but in this case I believe he is entirely innocent and the Met have made the right decision. Whether the FA do is another matter. It is about time that those who come to work in this country get used to the way we speak and expressions such as this which are in common use. We would have to do the same in their countries but as usual we fall over and pander to whatever pc lobby has the loudest voice, in this case the SBL.

    There have been a couple of threads around this subject on the Cardiff site including the use of "Yid" by Spurs fans again the SBL sticking their noses in where not wanted and if that term is deemed racist what about us Welsh calling ourselves "sheep sha££ers" as a defence mechanism against some of the slurs thrown at us by English fans. I don't know if you use that term at Swansea but it is a regular chant at our place - "One nil to the sheep sha££ers" and more as each subsequent goal goes in. <whistle>
     
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  16. MasterOfNone

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    This whole thing is a farce. How has it taken so long for the FA to interview the officials, a few of the players and then come to a decision. it's been 3 weeks!!

    I'm with the refs. They should have their microphones recorded, it should be available to the crowd just like in rugby and they should start brandishing yellow cards left, right and centre whenever they get abused. Once he sends 5 players off in a game people will say the ref ruined the game but I'm a firm believer that until the neanderthal footballer learns they'll just continue being shocking role models (though you have to question those who pick footballers as role models). In my saturday non-league the refs don't take any jip and are happy to send people off for abuse so why it doesn't happen in the leagues I don't know.

    As for the racism aspect, well that's for society to sort out. It's just that football is the mirror of our sad society.
     
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  17. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    What if a bunch of white lawyers were to complain about a black player....there would be an uproar and the papers would feed off it for all its worth.....double standards by these black lawyers with their own union ....Its the same as the KKK as an all white union.......Ignore and put any complaint in where it belongs...in the shredder.
     
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  18. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    I'd have to agree 100% with that Dai. I've just seen on SSN that they're now calling the FA racist, these people really are a bunch of clowns doing black players no good whatsoever
     
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  19. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    Yep, they are just using it or self promotion and be damned anyone who gets in their way.
     
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  20. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    Bfb, yes we do the sheep shagger one and it does shut the English up.

    At Southampton on Saturday I was talking to a few lads there that said they were walking up the steps to take their seats and could here racist remarks and sheep noises coming from Southampton fans. So they actually complained to the police and pointed straight at the groups that was doing it. It'll come as no surprise that the police weren't interested.

    One rule for one and one rule for another. This society of black lawyers make me sick and in my opinion are racists themselves
     
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