Off Topic Maradona

[Fez]

I am so glad that in my 65 years I have never, ever, seen a City or England player cheat or gain an unfair advantage by dubious means.

When I have seen it I have not applauded it and I certainly lose respect for anyone doing it - it's a perspective thing I suppose, it might be petty or it might just be my opinion, but I'll stick with that, regardless of your sarcasm. Maradona is a horrible, obnoxious cheating twat and that is how I think of him - despite me recognising a very special talent - his country is little better. How do you sit with his drink and cocaine abuse, is that another side of him that his talent overshadows?

Personally I am more critical of a goalkeeper who let a 5' 6 player get his hand higher than him.

How about Shilton (not a favourite of mind, but ...) timing his run against a player who he thought would use his head and fail, but was beaten by an illegal handball? You can dress it up as you like, but it was a massive cheat and nothing else; I think it is disappointing any England fan blaming anyone other than the cheat.
Now, another story, his second goal was sublime and you can fairly criticise defenders for making him look so good, but he had a foot in it (rather than a hand ), but by then I just thought he was a total twat and that has never changed and never will - you live with your thoughts, that's fine by me, I didn't question them, I just stated my own.

Come on Fez, stop been ****. You know what I meant. He was hardly any more of a cheat than anyone else.

Massive cheat, Polly; so massive he out-jumped Shilts. I'm not a big fan of Henry, either, cheating french twat: no Irish relatives but:

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[Polly13]

When I have seen it I have not applauded it and I certainly lose respect for anyone doing it - it's a perspective thing I suppose, it might be petty or it might just be my opinion, but I'll stick with that, regardless of your sarcasm. Maradona is a horrible, obnoxious cheating twat and that is how I think of him - despite me recognising a very special talent - his country is little better.

Bloody hell. Daily Mail alert!

How do you sit with his drink and cocaine abuse, is that another side of him that his talent overshadows?

Doesn't bother me in the least. If I sat in harsh judgement of people who boozed too much and snorted coke I'd hardly have any mates left, and my record collection would be a bit bland. To quote Bill Hicks - you'd better throw all your records out, cos the people who made them.... real high on drugs.

 

[Fez]

Bloody hell. Daily Mail alert!


Doesn't bother me in the least. If I sat in harsh judgement of people who boozed too much and snorted coke I'd hardly have any mates left, and my record collection would be a bit bland. To quote Bill Hicks - you'd better throw all your records out, cos the people who made them.... real high on drugs.

Fair enough, but Red Top would be more appropriate to the times.

Are there rules within the music industry about the taking of drugs and being in a band? are there rules in football about drug use? Come to think of it, how did a convicted drug user get into the USA for a World Cup? Lots of questions, just **** answers and folk wonder why the hierarchy of football is collapsing. **** quote, too.

 

[Barchullona]

Fair enough, but Red Top would be more appropriate to the times.

Are there rules within the music industry about the taking of drugs and being in a band? are there rules in football about drug use? Come to think of it, how did a convicted drug user get into the USA for a World Cup? Lots of questions, just **** answers and folk wonder why the hierarchy of football is collapsing. **** quote, too.

You won't have any sympathy for Livermore then? Or the many footballers who drank far too much?

 

[Polly13]

Fair enough, but Red Top would be more appropriate to the times.

Are there rules within the music industry about the taking of drugs and being in a band? are there rules in football about drug use? Come to think of it, how did a convicted drug user get into the USA for a World Cup? Lots of questions, just **** answers and folk wonder why the hierarchy of football is collapsing. **** quote, too.

There are rules in life about taking drugs, called laws; they apply to musicians and footballers alike.

 

[Fez]

You won't have any sympathy for Livermore then? Or the many footballers who drank far too much?

That's a bit lazy. How many times has Maradona been done for drugs? The two combined were excessive, against the rules, punished, but then glossed over. Can you think of one of your music heroes (or a pop star of your time) who was banned from the USA for taking drugs?

 

[Fez]

There are rules in life about taking drugs, called laws; they apply to musicians and footballers alike.

That's right, they do, don't they. But beyond laws there are rules in some walks of life and football has them, along with other professions. How well have they been applied in Maradona' s case? Not well, in my opinion.

 

[Barchullona]

That's a bit lazy. How many times has Maradona been done for drugs? The two combined were excessive, against the rules, punished, but then glossed over. Can you think of one of your music heroes (or a pop star of your time) who was banned from the USA for taking drugs?

I can think

That's a bit lazy. How many times has Maradona been done for drugs? The two combined were excessive, against the rules, punished, but then glossed over. Can you think of one of your music heroes (or a pop star of your time) who was banned from the USA for taking drugs?

Can you tell us of any? Though the reason the Stones got rid of Brian Jones was they were worried he wouldn't be allowed to your with them because of his drug busts. Jagger, Richards and McCartenay were all allowed in despite drugs convictions.

 

[Fez]

Inconsistent, isn't it; but the ruling can and has been applied for confession rather than prosecution and entry is halted at the visa stage. But yes, there are national and international laws, then there are professional and social rules, which, if ignored for no better reason than prodigious talent, encourage the rule-breaking they are meant to protect against. Some rules and laws are daft, but should a multiple drugs offender manage a national sporting team and, if he does, how should those laws/rules respond.

You won't have any sympathy for Livermore then? Or the many footballers who drank far too much?

Do you put Livermore and Maradona in the same moral boat? Do you consider their offending comparable?
My opinion on the likes of Best, Gascoigne, Windass have been expressed previously and seperately, as each case has it's own levels and influences on others. I think Maradona is extreme, don't you. He was also a bloody good footballer.

 

[Polly13]

Do you put Livermore and Maradona in the same moral boat? Do you consider their offending comparable?
My opinion on the likes of Best, Gascoigne, Windass have been expressed previously and seperately, as each case has it's own levels and influences on others. I think Maradona is extreme, don't you. He was also a bloody good footballer.

Fez in massively humiliating climbdown.

 

[Fez]

Fez in massively humiliating climbdown.

Fez being honest, never said he wasn't a good footballer.

Maradona is a horrible, obnoxious cheating twat and that is how I think of him - despite me recognising a very special talent

Maradona is a tosser, end of. Cheating twat who undermined anything good he had to offer; don't praise his skill, he used it to wrong effect.

Polly13 in a massively humiliating climbdown, or there should be

 

[I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..]

He's over in Blighty to take in the rugby union.

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Also his 55th birthday this coming week. So what more excuse do we need to pay homage to the little maestro.

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Greatest of them all?

Was he the one with the big boobies in Rene's cellar?

 

[Brucebones]

Was he the one with the big boobies in Rene's cellar?

Only people of a certain age....

 

[ElTigre]

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[ElTigre]

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[City Man]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...apadia-interview-footage-cinema-a8955911.html

Out soon.