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  1. MaradonerKebab

    MaradonerKebab Active Member

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    Sunderland AFC have completed a deal to sign Atletico Madrid full-back Javier Manquillo.

    The 22-year-old Spaniard becomes David Moyes’ fifth signing of the summer after joining from the Spanish giants.

    Manquillo is no stranger to the Premier League having spent the 2014-15 season on loan with Liverpool.

    The right-footed player has represented his country at youth level up to under-21 and has both UEFA Champions League and Europa League experience with Atleti.

    He spent last season on loan with French giants Marseille, gaining further European experience.

    The agreement is a season-long loan initially, which includes an option for Sunderland to make the move a permanent four-year deal after the completion of the loan.
     
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  2. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Option? Or forced to?
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    He played an entire season for Marseille and they didn't take the option, or didn't have the funds to buy him. I can't see Atletico just letting him swan off every year without some sort of plan so I'd imagine there could be an obligation to buy him here.
     
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  4. Commachio

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    Oh great another kid.:emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  5. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Don`t like that word. Alvarez springs to mind.
     
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    Jack TheLad Well-Known Member

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    I'd hazard the option to purchase is to protect both sides.

    We get relegated - he won't want to stay and we won't want a player on Premier League wages.

    We stay up - he'll (possibly) want to stay and we'll be able to pay him Premier League wages.
     
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    This is great news and assuming that we aren't stupid enough to allow another Alvarez situation, the perfect deal. I like a loan to buy.
     
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  8. marcusblackcat

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    From what I've heard from my mate who works at the ticket office, if he plays 25 games for us this season we are obliged to sign him. If he gets injured after 3 games (as per Alvarez) and neve rplays again, he goes back.

    My mate has been spot on with 90% all of the transfer stuff and stuff like this in the past but there is a 1 in 10 chance....
     
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  9. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Is he any good? @Nads
     
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  10. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    But what happens if he plays 25 games and, god forbid, gets hit by a bus and is killed. Do we still have to buy him?
     
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    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    Talk about expecting the worst haha.
     
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    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Still not sure. To play 25 games he only has to be better than what we`ve got and he doesn`t have to be particularly great to manage that.
     
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    Depends on the contract but to be honest you'd try to have a set up which kept it simple so that the moment he steps onto the pitch for the 25th game you are legally obliged. No wiggle room or grey areas. Simplicity and clarity then allow you to do things like transfer the requirement to insure the player from one club to the other.

    Similar to when you buy a house, you exchange contracts one day and complete on another. Obligation to insure is clarified within the contracts between the parties. It isn't actually very complicated and you have to wonder what on earth they were doing with Alvarez.
     
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    Don`t think he`d pass the medical mate.
     
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    If anybody knows it'd be him <ok>
     
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    My scenario is an exaggeration to make a point. What I am asking is basically after he plays his 25 games is he our player and we have to hand over our money at the end of the season? Is the player also forced to go through with the move even after finding out he cant stand the place? After his 25 games, on the 26th he gets a career ending injury, will we still have to hand the money over to Atletico as he is now our player?
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    We often did mate, particularly when Byrne was at the helm.
     
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    We have 16 million reasons to start Jones in 12 matches.
     
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  20. E.T. Fairfax

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    <laugh>

    But he has already had his medical. After 25 games he is our player so wont need to have one. Or am i just being stupid?
     
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