http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s/manchester-united-mount-last-minute-6172094 This has been confirmed now, although SSN at the time said we didn't.
Confirmed by whom? This is just the MEN making up more bollocks to try and drum up interest during international week. We were offered Ozil and turned him down weeks before deadline day, so why the **** would we wait until the last minutes of the window to try and sign him? http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...o-fund-gareth-bale-move--reports-8770450.html http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ce-to-sign-Willian-and-Mesut-Ozil-this-summer http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3860884.ece
I do think setting aside how true this actually is that here was clearly some major desperation at the end of the transfer window, which suggests to me, as I thought, that this Edward Woodward chap is completely out of his depth when it comes to finding ,negotiating and finishing off any transfer business and that the club have completely and utterly let down their new manager. This needs to be sorted, either in January or summer, or Woodward ****s off with a boot up his arse, not Moyes.
Exactley, it makes absolutely no sense that we would have gone in for him at the last minute. I ignore most articles that just quote "a source".
I thought Madrid were only willing to let Ozil go once the Bale deal had been sewn up? Why would they have offered him to Utd weeks before the deadline date?
Why the **** would you turn Ozil down? I don't believe that mate, not for a second, but I don't believe you tried to nip in at the last minute, all the efforts went on Fab and the other 2 that fell through
If we don't play a formation that accommodates Kagawa then why would we sudenly be able to accommodate Ozil. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked to have seen Ozil in a United shirt, but he was not and is not the answer to our problems. We have a very good central attacking midfielder in Kagawa but he's not getting much game time and when he does it's out wide on the left. I think had we sold Rooney then there's a very good chance we'd have gone for Ozil but I can understand why we didn't, he'd have been a £40 million luxury buy and having him in the team would have probably meant playing either Rooney or Ozil himself out of position as we are playing Kagawa when he does get on the pitch.
First of all, it is a mistake not adjusting things to accommodate Kagawa, your league position proves that. Are you telling me it would not have been worth it reshaping midfield a little to play Ozil? Really Teams have been built around players you know
Oh I definitely believe we are harming ourselves not playing Kagawa, I really rate him and wish Moyes had more faith in him. But my point is, if we already have Kagawa who's best position is in the exact same role as Ozil. Yes Ozil is a better player but Kagawa is still a very good player too. Since we already have Kagawa there wouldn't be much sense in spending £40 million + for Ozil who plays in the same position. If we we're going to re-build our team around Ozil we may as well do it around Kagawa and save £40 million. This isn't happening because we are playing Rooney and RVP together which isn't a bad solution either but for this to work we need a proper battler in midfield which Fellaini isn't the solution to either. IMO we should have gone in for Kevin Strootman, he ticks all the boxes for what we really need and he would fit into our team playing as we are and if we changed our system to make the most of Kagawas ability. As it stands Strootman was available for a lot less than Fellaini but he isn't now and his value has probably gone up a lot due to him now playing for a bigger club and being in a new contract.
Ozil would walk into your team if he was available, kagawa can't get into it, there is a fair gulf between the quality of the two players, and only a lunatic would choose Kagawa over Ozil if both are fit and raring to go
Ozil is better and if money wasn't involved I'd pick Ozil over Kagawa every time. But thegulf isn't as big as you are making out imo, we saw what Kagawa could do with regular game time in his prefered position at Dortmund, he is a big, big talent, he's just being wasted at United. But there is no sense in not using Kagawa and then spending £40 million on a player who plays the same type of game as Kagawa, you might as well use Kagawa, give him a chance to get some form and save £40 million. If we we're playing Kagawa properly and he wasn't playing well and then turned down Ozil you would have a point, and a very good one. Kagawa can't get intot he team because Moyes won't give him a CAM position because he's playing Rooney and RVP together, if we bought Ozil he would have to either play Rooney out wide or in CM, drop one of Rooney or RVP or play Ozil out wide as he plays Kagawa. The only other way to accommodate Rooney, RVP and Ozil all playing in thier prefered positions would be to play a very narrow team and have no width which isn't ideal either.
Same reason you waited till the last moment to sign Fellani for more than you could have got him for weeks before? Last minute desperation perhaps? And where is it confirmed United turned Ozil down?
Like Dave says - he probably would but then that goes for a lot of players. We need a CM, we don't need to spend our transfer budget on yet another AM. It's not been confirmed either way, and you know it never will be. But I've always found the stories written (and not denied by either party) at the time to be a lot more reliable than the ones produced a month or two after the fact when the player is already committed to his new club.
Yet another? Am I missing something here, where are all these attacking midfield players we're supposed to have? I can think of Kagawa and he's proven himself to be anything but so far. It's not your money mate, no need to be so frugal. We absolutely do need players of the quality of Ozil. If Kagawa can't then get in the side it's his tough ****.
