Managers

Sunderland fan in peace.

Are you happy with Pards?

Do you think he's better, the same or worse than Hughton?

There was a lot of negativity when he arrived. Has that changed?


If this has been done, sorry.

 

Pardew probably a better manager, not as loved as CH was due to how he was sacked.

He says the right things, stands up to Ashley and Lambiarse, and has got us points with a thin squad and one decent forward (who is now injured...)

 

He has kept us up, so I'm happy with him.

I think he has similar abilities to Hughton and a similar style (Also the same inept ability to make substitutions)

And yes it has changed, because he has carried on the good work CH was doing.

What about Stevie Bruce?

 

Pardew has kept us up and looking to help us finish in the top 10-12. He's done his job but i need to see how he'll do in the summer transfer window.

Hughton brought gems like Tiote and Ben Arfa for excellent deals, and i can't see Pardew forging better deals then those two.

However, despite the fact that i loved Hughton to death, i think Pardew's experience and tactical awareness show and his ability to use the younguns and fringe players is excellent.

I'd say Hughton should get the credit for where we are now, but Pardew is the bloke that will take us forward and keep us in the league strong.

 

This.

Both got the one unbelievable result.
Hughton - The Haloween Haunting of Sunderland
Pardew - The Greatest Comeback of All Time

 

I think this season it would have been very difficult for Pardew to make Newcastle fans feel "OK, sacking Hughton seems to have been a good decision" unless we'd finished 6th somehow and destroyed everyone along the way. Next season will determine how he's thought of I reckon. It's pretty hard to compare the 2 managers because they were in charge in completely different circumstances but I think tactically Pardew may slightly edge it although I'd like to see him be a bit more flexible during matches.

 

For me the jury is out on Pardew, can't really judge him till next summer when he's brought in his own players.

 

This , until next year it won't be 'his' team

 

It's difficult for Pardew because of the circumstances under which he joined Newcastle, we wont get the measure of him till next season when he has his own team. We all expect there will be the loss of some key players, but we know there will also be new arivals. My biggest criticism of Pardew at the moment, is his reluctance to make substitutions during the game when clearly it's not going well.

 

Prtobably better but time will show his true hand.

Some time the jury is going to have to come back in and that'll probably be around
Xmas after the m/any new summer signings either gel and the squad is going places
or things are all going arse backwards and there's no dressingroom unity.

Considering Hughton and Pardew's decisions/influence over the past rollercoaster of
months since promotion I'd say that both manager's low key sensible and restrained
steerage has worked as good as could be hoped for. They had the nucleus of a totally
reinvented squad with a belief in itself as a consequence of the way the players had
to adapt to their new circumstances after relegation. Hughton encourged this which
has visibly worked wonders for us all on the pitch the past months and has probably
set us up to be in the position we now have today with safe Premiership status for
next year. Pardew could've been a fool or very sure of himself to upset this and/or
carve it up after it was clearly working well and to be fair NOBODY saw ChrisH being
given the push by Ashley because of the run we were on back in Oct/Nov/Dec.

The only conspiracy theory I can fathom for such a move at that time could be the
certainty that it was known Carroll was leaving in January and Chris may have said,
if he goes I will too? Who knows.

Now Pardew can either really shake things up or sensibly build and spend any funds
wisely which I expect he will do as he seems to have a fair level head and from vibes
given by many (some likely real) sources it appears the players like and respect him
- who knows if they like ChrisH more, it doesn't matter now. What matters NOW is
the unity and committment of the players we do have to play for the cause of NUFC
and not have a bunch of hired guns who couldn't care which Club's name is on their
pay cheque each month and have a fractious unconvincing bunch of misfits.

I can see we'll do allright even despite the wild decisions of Lambiarse and Ashley
but when ever a period of stability seems to settle into a rhythm you can bet they'll
do something to upset things again. They're the main threat to the club, not Pardew.

 

This! Sums it up nicely for me. Good answer!

 

I see Pardew really wants to make things work here.
Who looks more at ease with their team's performance today:

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10 Newcastle
11 Sunderland

It's hard to complain really.

I like him, I think he's very astute but maybe lacks motivational skill. Hughton was great at making the team want to play for each other as well as him. Pardew has yet to prove he has this, and I fear he hasn't. The players aren't playing with as big a smile on their faces as they were under Hughton.

 

I believe a lot of the latest stuttering performances have come about due to pressure
and the frankly ridiculous lack of strike power - the players left standing probably see
their efforts being spooned over by Ameobi of fizzlle out in the final 1/3rd.

We don't really know what gives behind the scenes and I feel some of the vibes get
shown on the pitch. Some players really just looklike they love being in the shirt and
giving their 101% when others have off days and you wonder if it's due to **** higher
up the tree than motivational issues on Pardew's part.

 

I think the players look a lot more comfortable on the pitch and in possession though. Whether that was kinda forced through not having Carroll as a target man anymore is unknown but makes me think Hughton was a very good man-manager, maybe Pardew's a bit less motivational but more technical. Not much between the 2 though at the moment.
Bring on the summer!

 

piss off you filthy mackem (i jest)


To echo the sentiments of the guys in this thread;
Pardew seems to be more tactically astute than Hughton (perhaps due to experience) but i would have preferred to stick with Hughton.
The transfer window will be the real acid test of his qualities though.
Only real negative i can think of with Pardew is that he seems to love the sound of his own voice, if you know what i mean.

To be fair, i's not like there's a lot in reserve though, and it's not like Hughton did either.

I worry about this also.

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got to admit when i saw the betting odds a few months back and it had pardew as favourite i laughed, said to a friend "you have to love these betting places they come up with all sort of ****".....

days later he was our new manager,

he has done well, i dont think he has won/convinced all the fans let, this summer will be huge he brings in the right signings and gets rid of the right players, next season is massive for newcastle, and am not just saying that being a newcastle fan.

a few things get to me about him thou, his subs, today he only used 1 when we really could of done with a change in midfield, most of his subs are late in games, time wasting subs, kuqi/ranger coming on for 3 mins.... when we could of done with fresher legs 14 mins ago.

seems to motivate the players well his 1st game was the 3-1 over liverpool and we all know about the arsenal game.


time will tell and he needs time and for once newcastle and the fans need to give him it.

 

Don't really see how how you can say he's more tactically astute... how?

Colocinni in centre mid? Taylor in right back and Simmon on the right-wing? None of these really worked, and have been the only major tactical decisions he's had to make, imo.

 

90% of our board thought would be a brilliant idea(although i was staunchly against it i might add) so with a lack of viable alternatives it was at least worth a go.

yet again, most people on here thought putting Saylor at right back would be a good idea.

yeah, we really should have played our backup right winger ಠ_ಠ

 

Pretty much this. Plus I like the fact he's thinking about these options and trying them out. If they had worked he'd have been called a genius.