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Man Utd's Ashley Young is no diver - PFA's Clarke Carlisle

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  1. NorwayRanger

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    By Alistair Magowan
    BBC Sport

    Professional Footballers' Association chairman Clarke Carlisle does not believe Ashley Young is a diver but says players need to be more honest.
    Manchester United winger Young has been criticised for going down too easily against Aston Villa and QPR, earning penalties on both occasions.

    But Carlisle, who was Young's team-mate at Watford, said: "I wouldn't say he is or has been prone to falling over.
    "He is quick and slight so it doesn't take much contact to make him go over."

    Carlisle did not see the latest incident at Old Trafford on Sunday, where Young fell despite minimal contact from Villa defender Ciaran Clark.

    The England forward was criticised by Newcastle defender Ryan Taylor on Twitter and even Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that Young went down "quite easily" to earn the seventh-minute spot-kick in his side's 4-0 victory.

    The incident came a week after Young drew a penalty from QPR midfielder Shaun Derry when he fell after being pushed in the box.

    Carlisle added: "The players' responsibilities are to be as honest as they possibly can but they also need protection from the referees to give the free-kicks or penalties when infringements occur."

    And he believes English football would benefit if retrospective action were taken against "blatant" cases of diving, such as Andy Carroll's fall against Newcastle, although the Liverpool forward was booked by referee Martin Atkinson at the time.

    In Scotland, Rangers midfielder Sone Aluko received a two-match ban for simulation following a 2-1 win over Dunfermline.
    Northampton Town defender Carlisle said: "I'd like to see what the outcomes are over the course of the season [and] whether it was considered successful because there are very much grey areas.

    "Like in the Ashley Young-Shaun Derry incident, there was contact, so it depends what the parameters are.

    "If you are trying to judge whether there is sufficient contact, that's so hard to tell. Even in slow-motion replays you can't judge whether the contact on Ashley Young was enough to send him over. All you can see is that there was contact.

    "If it was for blatant cases like [Liverpool's] Andy Carroll against Newcastle, where there was no contact whatsoever and he went down then yes, I think it would be good.

    "Anything we can do to stamp diving out the game is progress, but you would have to establish the parameters and the protocol for reporting and investigating.

    "We want an honest game and we want our players to give a good example to the young guys watching because everything we do on a Saturday is replicated by the kids on a Sunday morning.

    "We don't want to breed a generation of young players who are actively looking to win free-kicks and penalties by diving."
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17728281
     
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  2. Jammers

    Jammers Active Member

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    cough *bollox* cough
     
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  3. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    Was he pissed when he said that?
     
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    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    You beat me too it! Bollox sums it up quite nicely <ok>
     
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  5. NorwayRanger

    NorwayRanger Well-Known Member

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    "He is quick and slight so it doesn't take much contact to make him go over." At least you got half of that right Clarke <doh>


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    Sorry Clarke but you're so far off the mark here, hang your head in shame.
     
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  6. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Clarke Carlisle is reputed to be one of the most intelligent and articulate footballers, draw your own conclusions of that profession...:headbang:
     
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    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like he's back on the booze again.
     
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  8. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Shocking article, he talks complete rubbish. And I still blame him for Campbell's goal in the play-off final.
     
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  9. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Comes in the same category as:

    1. The holocaust never happened.
    2. Elvis didn't die, he "retired" from showbiz and has been seen doing his shopping in Tulsa.
    3. Freddy Star ate my hamster.
    4. John Terry is no racist.

    Clarke, you're a complete waste of space. Stop trying to defend the indefensible ... leave that to "Fighting Talk".
     
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  10. Ciarrai_Abu

    Ciarrai_Abu Well-Known Member

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    Defending the indefensible. You have let yourself down Clarke Carlisle.
     
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  11. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Here's something in a way that he will be able to understand.

    Clarke, can you rearrange these letters to form a new word .....

    H I C K D E A D

    You have thirty seconds.
     
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  12. Rodney

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    It is boringly predictable that the Chairman of the PFA seeks to defend a paying member, even one who is a serial cheat. You could call it diplomacy or you could call it lying through his teeth. What next Clark? Politics?
     
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  14. Swords Hoopster

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    Drink-sodden mercenary
     
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  15. rebel not taken

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    Stan Collymore is just about the only voice that has come out and demanded action be taken against divers like Young.
    If there were laws of karma that cheat is due a broken leg.
     
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  16. Shawswood

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    Not doing the spoofs anymore rebel?We could sure use one now...
     
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  17. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    What upsets me is Clarke is one of ours, I thought he said QPR saved his life. Holloway? got him into rehab and gave him a new start in life, and basically turned his life around.

    I am more upset by CC comments than by most other peoples comments. Ashley Young is not that sort of player!!!!!....actually Shaun Derry is DEFINATELY not that sort of player. Shaun tackles hard but never fakes it. If Shaun had tackled AY he would have known about it and we wouldn't be discussing whether or not it was a penalty
     
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  18. fulham traveller

    fulham traveller Well-Known Member

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    the problem is clarke carlisle has to defend his unions representives, otherwise he will have no members, so really he is the wrong person to ask, its a bit like turkeys voting for xmas, we all know ashley dives, hes trying to con the football public
     
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  19. Flyer

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    Bollocks, hes a cheat, hes the one who initiates contact and then throws himself to the ground.

    I hate the word "contact" in regards to diving, it doesnt mean the player has to launch himself into the air because someone literally only lays a finger on him.

    just over a week ago.

    "PFA chairman Clarke Carlisle calls for 'zero tolerance' on diving"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17632778

    ****ing hypocrite.
     
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  20. Swords Hoopster

    Swords Hoopster New Member

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    Exactly this. Its been one of my pet hates since that stupid word has come into use in recent seasons. Straight away it implies that Football is a non-contact sport which it isn't.

    Contact is allowed in Soccer, always has been. It has to be sufficiently heavy to knock a player over or put him off his stride.

    I hate those dozy pundits who don't even know the rules of the game.
     
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