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Mags embarrassing themselves yet again

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  1. Comfy

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    Think trippier was very lucky that the lad stayed on his feet to score the goal as he actually knocked his foot as the lad brought the ball down, could've easily been a penna
     
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  2. vinkel

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    Another Trippier gift for City winner, has he had more assists for the mags or the opposition
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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  4. Oliver's Army

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    Scum of the earth, but we already knew that.
     
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  6. Row 3

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    Good job he's not as bad as the guy who paid minimum wage or they'd be out on the streets with their pitchforks.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

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    Fake news I'm afraid.

    I've searched the websites of Look North, BBC Sport, Chi Onwurah, The Mag and many others ...

    ... there's absolutely no mention of this or the Newcastle owners chopping up a journalist and chucking him in bin bags.

    Sorry everyone, looks like it's all made up.
     
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  8. Nacho

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    The fact that everyone was willing to accept that the chairman of Newcastle was guilty of "harming, silencing & ultimately destroying" a family, without batting an eyelid, shows how messed up the club is.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    I'm pretty sure those who occupy the moral high ground will soon be along, as they always are, to put the record straight ...

    ... we can rely on Alan Shearer, Ant & Dec, Robson Green, Jimmy Nail and all the other professional Geordies.

    Men of honour.
     
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  10. Paperback Ruiter

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    It's mad how this is just, alright
     
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  11. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    As time has gone on i become more and more grateful that we are not owned by them lot. Anybody with an ounce of dignity would at least feel a bit iffy supporting them, celebrating a win or a new signing. Id hate to have that niggle of guilt, trying to convince myself that its ok. Every so often crap like this is gonna pop up, if i was a town supporter every story like this will sting. Id feel any future success will always have an asterisk next to it.
     
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  12. Dave_39

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    Newcastle chairman Al-Rumayyan faces $74m lawsuit for ‘carrying out’ malicious instructions of Bin Salman
    By Adam Crafton
    6h ago

    Yasir Al-Rumayyan, the chairman of Newcastle United and LIV Golf, faces being sued for allegedly “having carried out the instructions” of the Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman (MBS), with “the malicious intent” of “harming, silencing and ultimately destroying” the family of the country’s former intelligence chief, Dr Saad Aljabri.
    The claims are made in legal papers that were dispatched to Al-Rumayyan at multiple high-profile locations — including St James’ Park, Newcastle United’s home stadium, during the second week of January.
    Al-Rumayyan is the governor of the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF), the state’s sovereign wealth fund that acquired an 80 per cent stake in the English Premier League club Newcastle United in October 2021.
    The legal documents were couriered to Al-Rumayyan at the PIF’s headquarters in Saudi Arabia, as well as PIF addresses in New York and London, and St James’.
    The papers, reported on for the first time by The Athletic, ask the Canadian court for permission for Al-Rumayyan and others to be added to an existing court case and for a new claim to be brought against him and the others over these new allegations.


    The claim Aljabri hopes to bring against Al-Rumayyan will, if the Canadian court grants permission, allege that defendants including Al-Rumayyan were “directly involved” in a three-and-a-half-year campaign between June 2017 and January 2021 to pursue the family of Saad Aljabri, who is a former top aide to Prince Mohammed bin Nayef.
    Bin Nayef was deposed as heir to the Saudi throne by MBS in a 2017 palace coup and has been in detention since 2020. Aljabri, a former intelligence officer, fled Saudi Arabia in 2017, first for Turkey and then to Canada, where the legal case is being brought. In January 2021, a collection of Saudi state-owned firms alleged in a Canadian lawsuit that Aljabri had embezzled hundreds of millions of dollars of state funds intended for counter-terrorism while working at the interior ministry. Aljabri denies this.
    Yasir Al-Rumayyan is chairman of Newcastle United (Stu Forster/Getty Images)
    PIF itself is also named in the latest papers, along with another PIF board member, Mohammed Al Al-Sheik, who are also listed as intended co-defendants in the draft documents. If the court allows them to go ahead, the Aljabri family will be claiming for CA$100million (US$74m, £59m) in damages.
    The claims present renewed questions for the English Premier League, who only approved the takeover of Newcastle United by PIF after receiving what the league described as “legally binding assurances” that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia would not control the club. The level of separation between PIF and the Saudi state has been questioned previously due to the fact MBS is the chairman of the board of PIF.
    The Premier League declined to comment when contacted by The Athletic.


    Further questions were raised when lawyers representing PIF claimed sovereign immunity in a court case involving LIV Golf — a multi-tournament competition financed by PIF — in the U.S., saying the PIF and Newcastle chairman Al-Rumayyan are “a sovereign instrumentality of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and a sitting minister of the government”. A federal magistrate ruled that neither PIF nor Al-Rumayyan were exempt under the Foreign Service Immunity Act owing to an exception for commercial activity fulfilled by PIF’s involvement in the commercial enterprise of LIV Golf.
    The New York Times Company intervened and asked the judge to unseal documents in the case and LIV Golf, PIF and the PGA Tour settled and withdrew their motion to dismiss after a surprise “merger” between the golf competitions was announced in June.
    Aljabri, who holds a doctorate in computer science, has been credited by several Western intelligence officials for his work as a Saudi informant to Five Eyes (U.S., UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand) intelligence agencies. Michael Morrell, the former acting director of the CIA, told CBS that Aljabri is “honourable” and added that he had “absolutely saved American lives”. He provided the example of an attempted attack by the terrorist organisation al-Qaeda in 2010 when bombs were hidden in two desktop printers and due to be transported on two flights to the U.S. Morrell said that intelligence passed on by Aljabri ensured the explosives were defused during a layover at East Midlands airport in England.
    His family’s proposed case against Al-Rumayyan accuses both the Newcastle chairman and Al-Sheik, who is a PIF board member and a Saudi Minister of State, of “direct” involvement in a litany of allegations. These include taking steps to orchestrate an alleged campaign which include “wrongful kidnapping and detention”, “misappropriation of property” and the “expropriation” of companies worth hundreds of millions of dollars into PIF hands. These steps, the papers allege, were taken for “political reasons” and at the service of the Saudi Crown Prince, MBS.
    The tensions between MBS and the Aljabri family came to prominence when, in August 2019, Aljabri submitted a 106-page lawsuit in the United States, where he alleged that a “hit squad” had been dispatched to murder him in Canada in the previous October. In that same month, the Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi was murdered in Istanbul and a U.S. intelligence report subsequently claimed that MBS had “approved” the operation. The Saudi Crown Prince described those findings as “flawed”. In a subsequent television interview, Aljabri told CBS that a six-person Saudi team landed at Ottawa airport where he says they misled customs about knowing one another and carried suspicious equipment for DNA analysis. The six men were deported.
    Al-Rumayyan and part-owner Amanda Staveley (Paul Ellis/AFP via Getty Images)
    CBS reported Canadian officials as saying: “We are aware of incidents in which foreign actors have attempted to… threaten… those living in Canada. It is completely unacceptable.” The Saudi embassy in Washington DC said Aljabri has a “long history of fabricating and creating distractions”. MBS’s lawyers rejected Aljabri’s allegations and said MBS has legal immunity in the United States as a foreign head of state in any case. Michael Kellogg, an attorney for MBS, previously described Aljabri’s claim as “steeped in drama”.
    It has previously been reported how Saudi Arabia sought the help of Interpol to extradite Aljabri, only for Interpol to remove his name from their system. The New York Times reported that the Interpol commission has criticised Saudi’s handling of corruption cases “for the lack of due process and human rights guarantees”.
    In March 2020, Aljabri’s son, Omar, and daughter, Sarah, were arrested at their Riyadh home. They had both been due to continue their studies in Boston in the U.S. only to have been banned from leaving Saudi Arabia in 2017 at Riyadh airport, when Omar was 18 years old and Sarah only 17, for “security reasons”, but were never formally notified of the reasons for the travel ban.
    On November 4, 2020, a Saudi court then sentenced Omar to nine years’ imprisonment and his sister received a six-and-a-half-year term, without being granted the opportunity to be present or cross-examine witnesses. They were convicted on charges of financial crimes and conspiracy to escape the kingdom unlawfully. In 2022, the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention called on Saudi Arabia to immediately release Aljabri’s jailed children, as well as Aljabri’s son-in-law, Salem Almuzaini, who was detained in Dubai and then flown to Saudi Arabia.
    Four U.S. senators wrote a letter to then-president Donald Trump in July 2020, in which they said: “The Saudi government is believed to be using the children as leverage to try to force their father’s return to the kingdom from Canada.” Senator Patrick Leahy, one of the contributors to the letter, stated on X, formerly Twitter, that the Saudi royal family is holding Aljabri’s children as “hostages”.
    Human Rights Watch said the trial was expedited over a few weeks and when the family appealed the conviction, “the authorities carried out a secret appeal session without notifying or the presence of the siblings, their lawyer or the family”.
    They remain imprisoned and have not had direct contact with their family for almost four years, since March 2020. The Saudis have previously insisted that the siblings have been afforded their rights under law and that the arrests were not politically motivated.
    Yet in a draft counterclaim filed this month at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, the Aljabri family are seeking permission to bring a claim for damages of CA$100million for “abuse of process” and “unlawful means conspiracy”, with defendants they want permission to pursue including PIF, Al-Rumayyan and Al-Sheik.
    The proposed counterclaim alleges that “meetings and discussions” took place between July and September 2017 between MBS, Al-Sheik and Al-Rumayyan “to discuss how to create pressure on Aljabri”. This, the papers claim, contributed to a decision to expropriate 20 companies into the hands of PIF, who could then pursue civil claims against Aljabri.
    MBS also launched his now infamous anti-corruption campaign in the autumn of 2017. This involved hundreds of the richest Saudi individuals, including members of the royal family and ministers, being locked in at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Riyadh and accused of corruption. It resulted in the expropriation of billions in assets into the Saudi state. Multiple reports alleged coercion and physical abuse, citing witnesses who claimed individuals were hospitalised and one died in custody with a neck that appeared twisted, according to the New York Times, but there is no suggestion that PIF, Al-Rumayyan or Al-Sheik were involved in those alleged events.
    Jamal Khashoggi was murdered (Mohammed Al-Shaikh/AFP via Getty Images)
    Documents within the separate Canadian court case include evidence suggesting Al-Rumayyan was involved in the transfer of assets to PIF on behalf of the crown prince MBS.
    Saudi documents filed to the civil court show that Al-Sheik, one of Bin Salman’s aides, asked Al-Rumayyan in his role as governor of PIF to transfer 20 companies to PIF during this period, which the governor replied to with handwritten approval.
    Among the seized companies was Sky Prime Aviation, a charter aeroplane firm whose jets were later accused of being used in the plot to murder Khashoggi. There is no suggestion that Al-Rumayyan or Al-Sheik had any knowledge or personal involvement in the matter.
    Another seized company, Alpha Star, is an aviation company whose planes were used in January 2022 to transport Newcastle United’s first-team squad to a training camp in Saudi Arabia. These companies appear to have been transferred to PIF under the orders of Al-Rumayyan, following instruction from MBS, which poses questions about the separation between the state and the sovereign wealth fund.

    One of the documents filed with the U.S. court case is a memo written by Al-Sheik to the “supervisor” of PIF (which is Al-Rumayyan’s role as governor) and labelled at the top as “top secret, not for circulation and very urgent”. The first memo, on December 22, 2017, instructs the supervisor to “transfer” the companies to PIF and a follow-up memo, pursuing the matter, reiterates the order, citing the “instruction of the Crown Prince”. It states that the supervisor should “immediately approve the completion of the necessary procedures”. Then a handwritten signed note is sent on December 26, 2017, which appears to be from Al-Rumayyan, requesting him to “do what’s necessary as fast as possible”. This would appear to demonstrate the wishes of MBS being fulfilled by Al-Rumayyan in relation to PIF affairs.
    Joey Shea, a researcher for Human Rights Watch, testified at a U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Investigations on the matter in September 2023, as part of an examination of PIF’s investments into the United States. She said: “In 2017, one of Mohammed bin Salman’s advisers ordered Al-Rumayyan, then the fund’s ‘supervisor’, to transfer 20 companies that were captured as part of the ‘anti-corruption campaign’ directly into the fund. There is a risk that these companies were ‘transferred’ from their owners without due process.”
    The proposed Canadian papers further suggest that Al-Rumayyan was among those who took steps to cause the Saudi Public Prosecution Office to begin criminal proceedings against members of the Aljabri family, including his children Omar and Sarah, not because of any actual wrongdoing by those individuals but as a means of punishing and persecuting Dr Aljabri. They also claim that “the wrongful kidnapping and detention of Omar and Sarah, and the wrongful abduction, detention, and torture of Dr Aljabri’s son-in-law Salem Almuzaini” was undertaken for the sole purpose of retribution against Dr Aljabri.
    The Athletic contacted PIF, Newcastle United, the Saudi government and the Saudi Embassy in London for comment.
     
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  14. The Professor

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    Makes the fit & proper persons test look more of a joke
     
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    Aljabri’s to go missing before legal claim escalates????......i guess we just have to respect their culture<doh>...... murdering cxnts
     
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    They will bury it just like the Vermont hotel fiasco.
     
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  18. Philftm

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    Unlike the Vermont carry on this is going before a court so they can't bury it. They will try to ignore it as will Masters at the Premier league
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Quire right mate.

    This isn't just a 'boys will be boys' story.

    There's been times when neutrals have defended, even admired, Newcastle such as when Bobby Robson had them challenging for the title.

    That's virtually gone now judging from the pub and social media ...

    ... they've managed to become more hated than Man City who are openly owned by a state and have bought most of the recent trophies.

    That's quite an achievement.
     
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