There's a piece on Mad Dog in the express. Quite interesting but nothing ground breaking. He certainly is much more media aware than previous managers and seems to get the club mentioned. It's nice to have the exposure. http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/344724
will not court any offer during his 2 year contract. brilliant thats a very shrewd bit of business by Scally an no matter what people say about him he has a great business mind!!
I don't think that's a piece of business by Scally. Doesn't sound like there's anything contractually in it, like he's bound to us or anything. Just that MA has said he won't court any offers (won't actively seek a job at a higher level). But if someone comes in for him, well. And having said that, in the same article he says he wants to coach in the Championship/Premiership. You could argue he's already courting offers Still, I certainly hope MA is good to his word, and stays for 2 years minimum if he gets up promoted. He just may be the man to take us back to the Championship
He has told Scally he will not leave to join any other club, and feels the only way he will manage as high as the Championship is with us http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/344724
It looks like he is whipping up interest for his next job already! Look at all these achievements of mine, aren't I doing well at Gillingham, I am a Championship manager really but of course I will stay here at Gillingham for 2 years and keep generating self publicity until I get an offer I just cannot refuse. It is all looking like a job application. If he wants to convince anyone of his intention to remain loyal to the club he should keep quiet and stop courting publicity for the next 24 months. Then we might be convinced.
I was also worried like you are, I just feel yeah you may say this but if an offer comes along with a salary of 5 times he is getting now you would be mad to turn it down, I know there is a such thing as loyalty however anyone would move on if the offer is amazing. Even if you love the club you are at you may leave if the offer is really good as money talks.
Anyone is entitled to better themselves, if you get a better offer with more money then you are going to take it like the everyday person would if offered a better job! Just enjoy what he is doing why he is here as he is a breath of fresh air for the club. Also dont read too much into comments made in the press they can be twisted or taken out of context. We should just be enjoying the great job he is doing so far rather than worrying about what might/might not happen! UTG
I've merged the 2 threads MA in the express and Martin Allen to stay with the Gills as they both contain the same link. Cheers UTG
What is it like to be so cynical all the time Bristol? Lets face it this is a nothing story invented by the press in a lull following the close of the transfer windows and the fact that it is an international fixture week. All that happened would be the interviewer asked "do you think you are good enough to manage in the championship?" That is it.. end of. This is not Allen courting the press, arranging interviews to tout his wares, there is enough known about him out there to make the need for such a stunt pointless. Your feeling about the stepping down of Hess are well documented but the fact is the Allen has done more for this club in the month he has been here than Hess has done, as manager, for the last two season. Just enjoy the success and don't let your bitterness force you to try and stick the knife in at any given opportunity
It's a bloody job we're winning !!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy days are here again, la la la la la la la la etc. BSG I have no interest in joining in the argument that may ensue between you and bristol407 - but I can see why 'bristol' has made his observations - especially given the track record of Allen's tenure of managers' jobs - that he is more likely not to be our manager for long - ( that's not to say that he won't be .) If Allen was asked a leading question by a reporter, I would expect that Allen would have been confident of his own ability to ' talk himself up ' - even Mark Robson ( Barnet manager for those that didn't know ), on Saturday said in the post match interview, that Barnet had as many chances as Gills, and were unlucky - but did not suggest that the reason why his team are bottom of the pile is because he is a rubbish manager.
Oh come on, join in the agrumental fun!! Bristol and I seem to be polar opposites on many things regarding our bloved fun but I do respect his opinion. The problem is that Allen has a bad reputation for leaving clubs in the lurch but he has been sacked as many times as he has resigned so I feel the perception of him as mecenary always on the look out for a better jobI feel is unfair. Looking at the two shortest period in charge firstly the second spell at Barnet,but they had only offered him a 8 match contract. Only a fool would turn down along term deal for just a few weeks of work! The other short period was at Leicester where Manderic was calling the shots on transfers, making the managers role pretty redundent. Now he could have simple sat there and taken the cash for doing sweet FA but he stood up for his principles and resigned, which I think shows him in a better light than if he just took the cash.
Zero cynicism and total realism in my comments. The facts speak for themselves. Allen is riding a wave with an in form squad and is top of the lesgue. Scally has money falling out of his pockets for the first time in years with clawbacks from the Jarvis and Bertrand deals, the Gazza sale and best of all a clear out of high earning low performing players who were out of contract. So we have every right to expect great things this season. It would be very foolish, however to accept at face value any comment from a Chairman that backs an underfire manager, or a politician who says there will be no 3rd runway at Heathrow or a manager who talks up his loyalty to a club. In all these circumstances it usually means the opposite of what is said. Loyalty is demonstrated over time not through soundbytes.
This is generally where we clash... what facts? You have stated nothing other than opinion and speculation. Where are facts that Allen is using the Express to seek a new job and when has he left a team after a short term for a better job, considering the mitigatiing circumstances around the Barnet and Leicester jobs?
I agree with you BSG. It is only an opinion that Allen may be using the media to court attention. That is why my contribution starts "It looks like." The facts I quote in my second contribution are indisputable. And the overriding assertion (9 clubs in 9 years) is equally beyond dispute. I agree there is a mix of reasons for his departures but you need also to recognise that the man has sought other positions (unsuccessfully) in his 9 years. I have not chronicled these but you can find some of them on the internet, Swindon is well documented. I am not knocking him because his actions so far are beyond criticism, I am just drawing attention to a likely outcome and reminding everyone just how fortunate his inheritance is, something I have argued consistently including my assertion that a cardboard cutout as manager would be a certain step towards promotion although there was no certainty that the cutout would not have been off to manage a bigger club, such as Rotherham before the season is over.
I understand your concerns Bristol, 9 clubs in 9 years does sound a little extreme, but I as I said there are mitigating circumstances. If you remove the two short term contracts he had at Barnet and the short time he had at Leiceter, you bring it down to 6 clubs in 9 years, which is an average of 18 months per club (taking into account he had very little time out of the game (excluding the gardening leave at Cheltenham but he was still employed by them at the time) which I dare to say must be near enough the average life span of a lower division manager
