Louis Carey: "I would say the players here have learned more in the last week than in the previous 12 months." Ouch..
For me this is a bad sign rather than a good one. If the players weren't behind McInnes for so long then the fans should have known sooner, and either McInnes or some of the players should have been relieved sooner. I can sort of understand a team player coming out and saying this, but Louis Carey is Bristol City through and through, and for a player of his stature to come out and say this, especially after McInnes kept the guy on after the end of last season says a lot about the position the club finds itself in now.
You can always learn something new it could be that DM was too much like KM in the methods he used in training S O'D has always been known as different to most other coach's in football.
Says it all really,lets see six points louis from the next two games,and then get us up the league that will very very nice.
Very disappointed in Louis comments TBH, how can Mr Bristol City, and ex Captain of the club claim they lacked organisation. There is only so much any manager and his coaches can practice in training, and the players have a responsibility to workhard and if things are going wrong on the pitch, take action to rectify it. To now claim they were not given organisation is a load of crap, what did they want DM handed written notes every 2 minutes if they were unsure what thy should be doing. The bottom line is that it is very clear we have too many footballers who are not leaders, and have no football intelligence and are not prepared to work for each other as a team, that is why we are in the ****, as much as DM and his coaching team. Too easy to blame ex bosses, when we have too many players here who have performed poorly under a succession of managers, and maybe it is time they were sacked!!
Strange comment....... Perhaps he is trying to say the players have learn't more "new" things or different methods of coaching under SOD, and perhaps Del was a more "traditionalist" in his methods? Can't see LC being the type to take a cheap shot at an ex boss tbh.
Caldicot, if you read his full comments, you will see what I mean, and I would call saying the players have learnt more in a week under SOD, than in the previous 12 months, a 'cheap shot'.
Blaming Del is really easy when he's not around to defend himself. I find the comments by Carey, who is one of the few at AG that I have any respect for, very disrespectful to DM and to the supporters. If SOD is making that much of a difference to the players and their outlooks, then we've every right to expect the maximum amount of points from the next 2 home games.
The team did lack organisation as it was all square pegs in round holes, constant changes and no obvious defensive strategy week to week. It was hard to spot exactly how they were setting up. Marking at set plays, prerssing the ball it goes on and on how mant errors there were. Louis Carey when he played did try to deliver those skills but it has to be ground into players this is the team shape this is the way we do it. When the team is falling off a cliff that grounding should be relentless. McCinnes had thiry odd players plus go through his managership but I could not tell you what tyype of footballing team they were. Even really poor teams can keep a shape. Bit biased here as I have met Louis a few times, he knows a few around the lions football team and he is a decent bloke. Mr O'Driscoll is meant to be a bit different, a deep thinker v pitchside ranter, he appears so, and what Louis Carey may really mean is he is very different to what he has experienced before. I do hope to see a totally new form of long term thinking at the club because what was going on before certainly was not working mate.
Well let's just hope our overpaid under performers dont get an easy ride then because if they do it will be back to square 1 like it was under Millen
It could have been read as we didn't train enough, we didn't plan enough, we didn't concentrate enough on organanisation = not enough work. New ideas and leaning = different training methods, drills games to work on organisation. The type of things it looked like City had not being doing enough of. Carey also mentioned O'driscolll talking about the mental side. Carey and who else can be classed as mentally strong amongst them? I hope to see signs of sensible improvement that could still see city down though.
worth remembering Carey that you have been an integral part of a team that lost its mojo when Maynard got injured playing summer tiddlywinks, or whatever it was. It has been a gradual progression since Wembley, which you have been at the heart of
Worth remembering that Louis Carey has taken part in to promotions, been PFA player of the season twice in his position, fractured his skull for BCFC, and despite an ageing frame has continued to perform to an above adequate level under now numerous managers. Only opinion like but if Carey was not returned to the team last season to play alongside Cisse and Bikey BCFC would have been relegated. His performances spoke volumes. This season he is back in the team due to the inadequecies of managers and their recruitment.
Because he has played in City teams previously that were tight defensively. Maybe he is expressing his view of what was primarily wrong.
I think this is spot on! Players have too much power, and we aren't exempt at our club from prats like this ruining the game. "I don't like the managers way of doing things so I'm not going to try hard. As with any luck he will be gone in a few weeks". Well guess what, I've never liked any of my managers at work, but if I don't work hard enough, I get let go! Players like LC are cowards, come out and say it to the managers face if you have a problem with the way you train. Not behind his back when you have gotten the bloke who kept your career going the sack because your lack of effort. I hope he doesn't break Ateyo's record as he doesn't deserve it!
I've thought that for several years. LC is not in the same league as John Atyeo. He had his share of poor performances but NEVER did we hear anything like this garbage that LC has come out with. I now feel quite sure that the idiots are still running the Ashton Gate Asylum. How will SOD deal with them? Quickly I hope because they will lose SOD his job if they remain at City.
Mr O'Driscoll is meant to be a bit different, a deep thinker v pitchside ranter! Mmmm where have we seen someone like that before, let's hope SoD last more than 3 games before he thinks **** this it's worse than I thought and Copped out
I presume due to your forum name you don't get to watch City very much. City were NOT organised mate. Week on week they were a shambles and that comes down to the manager. It was oddly enthralling though watching players like Foster up v six footers at set plays, Adomah wandering around midfield like he was playing playing an x box, Woolford playing like the invisible man, Skuses legs fell off, Kilkenny played like not sure what it is. Players totally out of position, Stead on the WING, ever changing XI's and formations. Collectively = confusing mess. They looked poorly coached. Carey when played did more than ok in the face of it. Any remarks are hardly disrespectful. O'Driscoll said himself he has talked to people around the club and he has worked on organisation.
