I just read a quote on the Hull out of Europe thread and decided to start specific thread on the subject. The comment was "we will never win the league". So based on that statement what is your long term vision for the club, mid table mediocrity, maybe a cup once every 40 odd years? Never ever really sat here and actually thought we will never win the league before. **** me! That's a pretty sad thought to be fair. I realize that the top 4 are so far out of reach financially,but does that really mean we can NEVER win the league? My own personal opinion is I will never ever give up hope of winning the league. You have to believe surely or why even bother being a fan. I don't want mid table mediocrity. One day I want us to be pushing top 6 and see what the finances are then Jesus! This we will never win the league ****e has just depressed the **** out of me, lol
I'd be happy with a positive team pushing for Europe spots and going on cup runs. Don't expect we'll ever win the league unless we're bought by Arabs
All down to money. I would imagine if Man City fans were asked this question 10 years ago, they would have similar views to us at the moment. Then Sheikh Mansour turns up and they are looking to the Premier and Champions league. If we don't get a stinking rich benefactor then staying on this league and the odd cup run is our ambition. We get a Russian or Arab on board, then the sky is the limit
Not sure I want to buy success, although I guess in essence we are always buying a chance to stay in this league, go in a cup run. I guess Ellis is funding our dreams, just not to the extent of a Roman A or a Shiek.
Probably every team who ever won the league bought it. It would be naive to assume otherwise. I'd love to be in a position to buy / win the league. In years to come the records would show our name on the trophy. The means of how it got there wouldn't matter. That Blackburn won it a few years is all that counts to their fans, not what got it there.
Why bog ourselves down with long term aspirations, Just a bit of improvement season on season will do me fine. I just want to see us play entertaining football.
Spot on, Blunham. When Sunderland were building 'the team of all the talents' around 1890, manager Tom Watson and treasurer Samuel Tyzack made regular trips into Scotland to recruit the very best players. Watson selected the player, and Tyzack negotiated the money end. And Tyzack was hardly a fussy man about methods. I read many years ago about one signing involving seven (!) different types of payment, including a sports shop in Union St., Sunderland! We were in trouble over illegal payments in 1904, again in the 1920s (though I don't have details of that one) and finally in 1956. That last one eventually led to the FA abolishing the maximum wage rule. Sunderland have always paid players what they were worth to us, and to hell with the rules. So we can hardly carp at others buying success. As you say, mate, it's always been the case - and Sunderland invented it.
This may seem a really strange and random question. Did they name Tyzack crescent on Fulwell road after this Samuel Tyzack? Edit Samuel Tyzack did indeed have a steel works on Fulwell road, so i'm guessing it was previously on the land where Tyzacks crescent is, hence the name. http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Samuel_Tyzack_and_Co
If it wasn't him, it would certainly be after one of that family. The Tyzacks owned a lot of coal mines in eastern Co. Durham before nationalization. The trio that took Sunderland AFC over from James Allen and co. was Chairman Robert Thompson, Jnr. (shipyard owner) Secretary James Marr (who was manager at Thompson's yard, and started his own yard early in the twentieth century) and Treasurer Samuel Tyzack. So Tyzack Cresent would be named after either Samuel or another of his family.
Good one - thanks. I notice two of the firms specialities were shipbuilding materials and rivets. No doubt he did business with Thompson and Marr, as well as others.
