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Long-Ball - Does it work? Who does it the most?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Number of long-balls played in the PL so far this season:

    78 - Newcastle United
    69 - Everton
    67 - Reading
    67 - Wigan Athletic
    66 - Liverpool
    65 - Chelsea
    65 - Fulham
    65 - West Ham United
    64 - West Bromwich Albion
    62 - Aston Villa
    62 - Sunderland
    61 - Tottenham Hotspur
    60 - Norwich City
    59 - Queens Park Rangers
    59 - Stoke City
    56 - Manchester United
    55 - Swansea City
    54 - Manchester City
    51 - Southampton
    49 - Arsenal


    Quite a good read on playing styles, long-ball and passing football: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-like-Real-Madrid-Barcelona--Neil-Ashton.html

    Try and read it if you can.


    Do any of those stats surprise you?

    Are you satisfied with our style, or should we become more 'direct'? We seemed to at the back end of last season at times.

    Do you believe in such a thing as passing or long ball football? Or is there just winning football?


    DTLW
     
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  2. SAINTDON13

    SAINTDON13 Well-Known Member

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    The long ball can be effective if you have the right people to execute it, accuracy is paramount. Gazza has been OK a couple of times planting the ball on Rickies head, it is what happens next that is vital. Just another weapon in the armoury, it is just a matter of picking the right time and the right place.
     
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  3. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Yep agree. Slightly surprised that West Ham aren't top:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  4. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Maybe we are now getting an idea of why Cortese got rid of Pardew he was a master of the long ball while here in my view. He did not subscribe to the keep ball idea it would appear.
    I agree about the long ball it should be a weapon in the arsenal and nothing more.
     
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  5. SaintJabie

    SaintJabie Well-Known Member

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    Long Ball is good for an occasional tactic. If you pass out from the back all the time, you are predictable. Likewise if you play long ball all the time. So mostly, stick to the passing, but once in a while try a long ball to see if you can catch their defence napping.
     
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  6. dman

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    To my mind good football teams have to mix up their style depending upon opponent, conditions, how the match is going etc.
    I watched some of the QPR v West Ham game and i thought that it was a fairly good game to watch and West Ham were not playing all what i would call 'long balls' even after Andy Carroll came on. They now have a very good winger in Jarvis and he can put in good accurate crosses for their centre forwards such as Carroll and Nolan.
    I do think that sometimes passing for passing sake style of play can be ineffective and boring to watch. A mix & match is needed.
    Saints early 80's teams were the most exciting teams that i have ever watched with fast accurate one-touch football + some good crossing and pin-point long balls from the likes of Steve Williams.
    At present Saints are good when it goes well ( as in Man Utd game & 2nd half v Villa ) but too often their passing is not fast enough, not accurate enough and not penetrating enough. I think & hope that this will improve as they play more games.
     
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  8. Bzzz

    Bzzz Active Member

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    Those stats have some flaws,
    Do Corners/Freekicks count as long balls?
    Some teams will pass it in the air in their defense (ex: RB to LB)
    If a team never has the ball, they can't send it long; but can still be a direct team.

    I expected West Ham to not be top, the "hoof ball" tag is sort of like the Southampton "One Man team" tag you had last year.
    But fans like to have an excuse as to why they lost, the "BFS hoof ball tactics" give them that.
     
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  9. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    What this tells me is that the short passing game isn't always more exciting than direct football. Though we and Arsenal never fail to excite, I tend to get very bored watching either of the Manchester teams. I find Newcastle and Everton far more exciting.
     
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  10. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

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    Imagine how even fewer we'll have now that Fox has been dropped.
     
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