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Loan Watch

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  1. Doc

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    I think this deserves to be a sticky because at some stage many of us will realise we have a shed load of players out on loan and some due back in December/January. Will these players actually come back, will they be sold off or another loan but also we have some kids out on loan that will expect to come back, but are they going to be better than what we have coming through the academy now? For example Malik Wilkes is getting rave revues at Doncaster, but is he better than Clarke, Edmondson or Dalby and will going back to the u23s actually benefit him or the club

    I will keep updating this on a weekly basis so that anyone can see how our players are doing.

    This was posted on yesterdays morning thread so we can use that for starters.

    LOAN WATCH:

    • Ideguchi scores on his debut and has 84% pass completion. Looks like the player we thought we'd bought. 1 game 1 goal
    • Lassoga (Not on loan) 9 minute hat trick means 7 goals in 5 games.
    • Wilkes on contract until 2021: scores again for Donny and also gets an assist for Coppinger and he was MOM again. This makes 4 goals in 9 matches and 2 assists.
    • O'Kane out for the season and will be doing recuperation back at TA after his operation yesterday.
    • Coyle another good shift in a 1-1 draw. 42 games last season and player of the year and so far this season has played all 10 games for Fleetwood. A highly rated right back.
    • O'Connor not in the Blackpool squad for the loss away. But a promising CB who has already played 10 games for Blackpool this season
    • Denton still not in squad for Peterborough but could be injured. Only played twice so far so hope he is injured otherwise his career could be over as fat Steve Evans raved about him before he arrived.
    • Kitching is having another great season for Harrogate and featured strongly in the 2-0 win. A CB who has just signed a new contract until 2021 and 18 years old. He did the biz last season too for Harrogate and a promising player.
    • Grot subbed off after 64 minutes for Venlo he had 1 shot and a 78% pass completion. After a brilliant pre-season where he scored 5 goals in 3 matches his league form hasnt kicked in yet. 5 games no goals so far.
    • Sacko not in Las Palmas squad. 3 games played, no goals and no assists.
    • Cibicki plays tonight for Molde'. Pavel has now played 7 games and scored 2 goals with 2 assists and looks like another player shafted by previous Leeds management.
    • LDB was subbed off after 75mins and the team lost 1-0. An inauspicious start to his Belgium return as he's only featured twice and with no great write ups.
    • Ekuban plays tonight. Played 2 games scored 1 goal which is ok for a striker
    • Anita came on when the team were 2-0 down but helped to get a 2-2 draw. Similar form to LDB but at least he looks like hes getting fit now, only 2 games so far as sub
     
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    Players standing out so far are:

    Ideguchi
    Wilkes
    Coyle

    Already looked at Wilkes competition, but many of us expected Lewie Coyle to move into the first team squad under Bielsa as understudy to Ayling, but no. He now has Bryce Hossanah as a cultured right back for the U23s who gets rave revues, but has missed the last 3 games through injury.

    O'Connor and kitching are 2 CBs but have to compete with Aapo Halme and Nessy. I preferred O'Connor to Nessy but we shall see, but big things hoped from Kitching so CBs next season will be key competition and in fact I think Liam Kitching is due back in January?

    Ideguchi is one to keep an eye on as I think we killed his career last season so hope he gets his form back, and so far his German club are loving him
     
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    • Grot scores in the 3-0 win for Venlo and provides an assist
    • Wilkes subbed off in the 84th minute without scoring in a 2-0 win for Donny. Donny have asked Leeds if they can extend the loan until the end of the season.
    • No Denton again Peterboro but Boro still doing well.
    • Coyle played all 90minutes in a 1-0 loss for Fleetwood
    • O’Connor an unused sub for Blackpool
    • Cibicki laid on a goal in Molde's 2-0 win
    • LDB out injured again
    • Ekuban an unused sub again
    • Anita came off the bench for last 15 mins in a 4-4 draw
    • Sacko not even on the bench again
    • Alex Machuca played 56 mins before off
    • Liam Kiching played all 90 minutes but was on the wrong end of a 3-0 defeat, which was the first loss of the season.
    • Bilboa was not picked this week
    • Bouy was an unused substitute
    • Oriel Rey was an unused substitute
    • Ideguchi starred in his clubs first defeat but he played all 90 minutes

    Standout players this week are:

    Ideguchi again
    Coyle again
    Cibicki
    Grot
    Wilkes again

    Just as a bit of fun Lassoga has scored 7 goals in 7 games for Hamburg this season so far.

    The striker I hope we go for at Xmas Prijavic has now scored 11 goals in 10 games this season.
     
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    Updated
     
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    Cibicki is on a season loan at Molde but their season ends in Jan, I think, can you see him coming back or will he go out on loan again? It's good that Ideguchi is actually getting some game time.

    Thanks for the loan watch :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Eric Pavel Cibicki is being used as an out and winger and is scoring and creating to rave reviews. None of us can know what’s in Bielsas head and think much will depend upon our squad at Xmas, injuries and if we need to improve the squad. Then which of our own have had a succesful loan and would be able to do the job Bielsa wants? Think Cibicki would need to get himself into the Swedish squad maybe?
     
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    Yosuke Ideguchi was subbed against Dynamo because of an injury after 30 mins. won the game with an 85min goal
    Pawel Cibicki played 88 minutes against Rosenborg and was Moldes highest rated player at 7.9, Molde winning 1-0
    Grot played 90 minutes in a 1-0 loss

    This is hard work Doc, hope you are having a good holiday !!
     
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    Mon 8th Oct


    O’Conner was an unused sub for Blackpool

    Wilks played for 73 minutes and then was subbed v Fleetwood

    Coyle played 90 mins for Fleetwood against Doncaster winning 4-0

    Denton was again not used by Peterborough in their 4-0 loss

    Kitching played 90 mins in Harrogates 2-0 win

    Grot played the whole match losing to PSV 4-0

    Sacko was an unused sub

    Anita was an unused sub

    Ekuban was an unused sub

    Cibicki played 82 mins in their 1-0 win
     
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    Thanks Eric, it seems some of our boys are not cutting it at the moment, except for Coyle and Cibicki and it seems our Jap is a long term injury problem now too in Germany after having a flying start over there.
     
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    Read Coyle got mom and 9/10 against Doncaster, good to see you back Doc but great backup by Eric <ok>
     
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    No worries. Shame about Ideguchi, I think he might have been able to get a game with us next year or at least increase his chances of a good move, but now ??
     
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    Jay-Roy Grot scored to seal VVVs win

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    Wilks scores in a Donny comeback to push Gillingham to within 1 point of the relegation zone

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    As Eric has already mentioned Grot came off the bench in the 70th minute to score in a 2-0 win and Malik Wilkes who was left out of the last match came back with a bang to score and that now makes 5 goals from 16 games, is that good enough to get back to Leeds?

    Anita came off the bench for the last 15 minutes for Breda
    LDB played the full 90 minutes but was thrashed 4-0
    Ousim Bouy came off the bench for the last 15 minutes
    Pavel Cibicki was subbed after 70 minutes in a 2-2 draw
    Sacko not even on the bench
    Lewie Coyle played full 90 as usual
    Tyler Denton an unused Sub
    Paudie O'Connor left out again
    Caleb Ekuban plays in Turkey tonight
    Liam Kitching played full 90 again to rave revues in a 0-0 draw
    Oriel Rey played the full 90 and won MOM
    Alex Machuca an unused sub
    Harrison Male 17yo keep on loan at Taddy Albion played all 90
    Adrian Balboa came on as a 75th minute sub
    Oliver Sarkic an 89th minute sub
    Idaguchi back at the club with PCI problems season over
    O'Kane another one with season ending injury

    A pretty poor weekend again on the whole for these loanees who will not earn the club much money if we sell. Grot scored again, Wilkes back with a goal but not regular starter, Cibicki is usually good, Coyle is always good & young Rey turned it on as well as Kitching, but I'm afraid the rest are struggling to get into bad teams so not holding out much hope
     
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    Ekuban played tonight in Turkey but still firing blanks, so 1 goal since he went means he aint coming back.

    Doukara however has scored 5 and playing well but thats 5 from 17 I believe, just thought I would compare our player and an ex we got rid of
     
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    Not sure if this is loan watch but it is bound to be on his mind.

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    Our loan players this week: Updates as soon as I get them

    Wilkes was subbed off on 58 minutes
    Denton for the first time this season got the nod and reports say he had a great game, long time coming keep it up.
    Coyle yet again put in a full shift and played well, nothing unusual for this lad.
    O'Connor was an unused sub again, so struggling to get into a poor Blackpool side.
    Rey played the full 90
    Kitching the 3rd of of CBs out on loan had another steady game
    Grot came on in injury time
    LDB Unused sub
    Sacko actually got a game for only the 5th time when he came off the bench on 76 mins
    Cibicki Plays tonight
    Ekuban unused sub
    Anita was subbed in the 78th min
    Machuca was subbed in the 79th min
    Bilboa was an unused sub
    Bouy came off the bench in the 65th min
    Male had no game this weekend
    Sarkic came off the bench on 75 mins
    ideguchi injured
    O'Kane injured

    McGreedy scored again in Oz and Doukora also scored again in Turkey

    So yet again it looks like Denton is the pick of the bunch along with Kitching again, but good to see Tyler Denton get a game and hope this is the turning point. the rest look like the **** we saw last season besides the kids like Rey, Bilboa etc who are learning their trade.

    Update Cibicki scored again tonight, so add him to players who are doing their job. Oh and Prijavic scored again tonight to put his team top of the league unbeaten
     
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    Looking at that list Doc, we have at least a dozen players who will never play for us again, we’ll certainly not under Bielsa, probably more than that when you look at the U23s who are starting to make appearances or at least get on the first team bench.

    We have a lot of wages to try and shift, I hope that doesn’t hamper us in the plans for January. We all know Rads is a businessman, that will include a worse case scenario plan in regards to what funds we will be projected to need if those loans all returned unwanted.
     
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    Exactly mate of the 24 we have out on loan almost half are kids out of the academy. Some are Spanish and have gone to Spanish clubs and it may be these will be sold for profit. Other kids will comback for finishing but some like Wilkes wont make it as he isnt a regular for Donny and is now behind Edmondson, Clarke, Dalby, Stevens. Kitching should make it back but of the others only Cibicki and Coyle are really doing anything. Idaguchi was smashing the German league but bad injury kills another season.

    Poor performers are LDB, Grot is in and out but not a regular starter in a poor team, Anita always on the bench, Sacko is pants...
     
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    O’Connor played against Arsenal tonight and scored but then got sent off? Arsenal winning 2-1 looks like game over
     
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