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LJ out... With alternative suggestion

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by NickH, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. NickH

    NickH Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. That's all I can think of to say to LJ. I think I wanted him to succeed more than maybe any other manager we've had in recent times, probably because I was one of those who felt he was unfairly criticised as a player, & I believe he Loves this club.

    However, it's becoming increasingly clear that he's not up to the task - he did well in keeping us up last season, and we started this one extremely well, but a record breaking losing streak & taking us from the playoff places to the relegation zone (bar goal difference), doesn't represent a knee-jerk reaction.

    An argument for the defence is often 'who is there that could replace him?'; well, I had a thought on this...

    He doesn't have an extensive record in management (with mixed results in that time), but I think Roy Keane is an ambitious yet realistic possibility. He is outspoken, but only sometimes unreasonable, and I think his time as a no 2 with Ireland could have given him time to reflect; also, Martin O'Neill is a great example to learn from. Heck, he wouldn't necessarily need to give up his current role if he wanted.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. ibodyslamrhinos

    ibodyslamrhinos Active Member

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    I don't get why people think he loves the club. If he loved us so much he'd recognise he is the problem and shove off but he still thinks he is the dogs bollocks. Him and everyone associated with coaching that first team need to naff off for good.

    As for keeping us up last year, Lansdown wallet did that and bringing in Premier League players to get us over the line. My mum could have saved us from the drop last year as we only needed to be better than 3 utterly dismal teams who deserved to go down more than we did.

    We need a man the players want to win for! Keans is definitely not that, he is loathed by players. I'd rather see Di Canio than him if we are looking for a nutcase to lead the boys out.
     
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  3. TampaBayBCFC

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    If she is available for a short term gig, I fail to see how she could possibly do any worse than the incumbent. Can she pop down for an interview?
     
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  4. RedorDead

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    I said this a months ago when he said "no one loves the club more than me". If that's true I know that I for one would stepped down.
    I was wavering last year but Reading killed any hope I had for him.
    What I'm pissed off about is when we appointed him Gary Monk was up for grabs. I was old what's he done apart from Swansea, but look at what he's done at the basket case Leeds Utd.
     
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  6. ibodyslamrhinos

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    I dunno, she loves a winter holiday or 3 and is going deaf, and wouldn't be able to go 90 minutes without a cigarette. Other than that she'd be a top choice.
     
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  7. RedorDead

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    Sounds better than the fool in place at the moment.
    Just listened to his after match interview and the cat shot out the room as soon as he heard LJ's voice.
     
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    To be fair I don't think I've ever disagreed with a post more on this place <laugh>
     
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  9. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Who knows what LJ thinks?
    Who cares what the fans think?
    It's what SL thinks that becomes the law.

    Part of me thinks 'fair enough' because it's his money, but my heart says he's destroying my club.
     
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  10. Red Robin

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    SL has built a stadium,but he needs to put a team on the pitch capable of filling it.
    Now the important piece of the jigsaw,a top manager.
    Alan Pardew or Nigel Pearson if he is available.
    A no brainier Mr L.
     
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  11. NickH

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    I think saying he's 'destroying the club' is a touch excessive - it's hardly like we were World beaters before he came along, and at least he's delivered a renovated Ashton Gate.

    I think sometimes an owner is only judged as successful or not by whether or not the team is successful on the pitch, but I don't think the two are always synonymous. The Oystons have been a blight on Blackpool, yet oversaw their rise to the Premiership for example.

    SL may be overly loyal to an unsuitable manager (something that isn't common in football, it must be said), but he's dug into his own pocket to improve the infrastructure of the club - it's then down to the players & manager to deliver success. There'd be better owners out there, but an awful lot more worse ones - people will be bitter on account of the terrible run we're going through, but I'd say with some confidence that a random bloke on a football forum wouldn't do any better.
     
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  12. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I truly despise the Oystons in a lot of respects, but at least they found a way to get a small, once famous and now unfashionable once again, club into the top flight which is to their credit.

    What's happened to Blackpool ever since is a travesty and no mistake there, but there are quite a lot of parallels as to what happened to us once upon a time....
     
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    What is becoming strikingly obvious to me, is with a record that is something like 17 defeats in 23, 6 points from 63 etc (If I am incorrect they still make pretty miserable reading) that if we are not good enough in that amount of games, we aren't good enough for the division.
    What hurts is that after such a good start, we certainly didn't expect to be in this position. I can recall a couple of teams, Norwich being one having such a fall from a good start, but we are now at the stage when we have 12 games left and need 6 wins.

    Cant see that happening myself, we are outside the bottom 3 by the skin of our teeth.
    Its not the same personnel every game, the players have been rotated, but after 46 games is how the table will judge us.
     
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    Perhaps 'destroying' is excessive, because Bristol Sport is looking like a success - commercially at least. Maybe 'handicapping' would be a better description. I am talking about our football club, not a huge sports and corporate enterprise - I don't care about basketball or rugby - or corporate conferences, religious conventions or rock concerts - I care about FOOTBALL. I have made absolutely no secret of my preference to invest in the team first and foremost and outgrow the old Ashton Gate before spending £millions on a new stadium for our 16k fans to rattle around in whilst watching L1 on a wet Tuesday night.

    At the moment, everyone is (rightly) concerned with LJs appointment as being wrong - because he is currently in the 'hot seat', but in truth, since GJ we have seen a succession of disastrous appointments - with the possible exception of Steve Cottrell (who was only good in L1 remember - DIVISION 3 FFS - he struggled to hack it at championship level).

    Once LJ goes, I predict we will see a short-term recovery, followed by another disastrous appointment of a manager with half-proven or mediocre experience to fill his shoes.

    My confidence in Bristol City Football Club is at an all-time low.
     
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  15. ibodyslamrhinos

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    Maybe we have to accept we are a good league one side and nothing more.

    As GJ in Championship wasn't that great either. We played long ball to the big bloke upfront for much of his tenure after we were promoted.

    I think luck and timing play a huge part in it. The right man comes in at the right time and takes the club to the next level. Maybe an unknown, an unproven, or a journeyman manager. But something clicks between playing staff and management. We haven't had that ever in the championship.
     
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    So the choices so far are;
    Roy Keane
    Martin O'Neil
    Not much chance of those two bit like RR's suggestions.
    Or Ibodyslam's mum.

    Can you send your mum done for training tomorrow morning please?
     
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  17. Angelicnumber16

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    Uwe Rossler ?
    Roberto Martinez ?
    Simon Grayson ?
    Mickey Mellon ?
    Mickey Mouse ?
     
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  18. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    THE MAJORITY ON HERE were quite "happy" that we would not get any points in February ..... ( or after Rotherham ) we got 5 /2...
    "we would likely be in bottom 3" ................ technically we are, GD is only important if at the final reckoning you need it to elevate a position or so up wards..
    Other teams are just as poor as we are ... reasonably true ....
     
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  19. Cliftonville

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    For seasons Mr Lansdown has already turned losses into equity and loans (zero interest). It is hard to see how Mr Lansdown could continue to finance the FC at the levels it has been without the redevelopment. FFP rules would not allow it.
     
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    to My confidence in Steve Lansdown is at an ever lower point than previously, and that was really bad. We will never progress to the levels he has virtually promised until he finally gets his head out of the sand and wakes up the reality of what it takes to run a successful football club - never!
     
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