http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/lfc-launch-garuda-partnership Great... so instead of seeing a player with his name on the shirt and posing with the Managing Director we get some random Indonesian businessman.
To be fair to Ayre, his work on the commercial side has been very good as was promoted to MD as a result. He's been getting a lot of stick recently but he is a local lad and has done a good job. I feel that he needs to stick to the commercial side and we need a more savvy person leading the club.
Excusing the pun, but what's the big deal? Garuda is a growing airline brand based on the most populous island on the planet (175+ million people and counting.) Thailand is dwarfed by comparison. If it opens up that market to the LFC brand and bring in extra cash, so be it. It just happens to be a different (and more sustainable) business model to finding a friendly sheik.... (or oil oligarch etc etc.) GKRK
Thing is gkrk John Henry has already told us there will be no 'risky' high price signings, that FSG are thinking well ahead of the Uefa FFP rules coming into play, that now is not a financially viable time to refurb Anfield so they've covered all the bases in 'their' favour. So it matters not how much the club make financially in the commercial side of things, we are not going to see a penny of it pumped into the team to help us compete for the top 4. If they prove me wrong i'll be as happy as the rest, so make me happy starting in january John Henry.
Spot on. If the FFP is run correctly it will affect what is known as ''capital gearing'' which affects all business outgoings. Its the ratio which determines how much free capital for investment a business has left after all expenses are paid. Loans are applicable to this. To break it down to lay persons terms, its like a weekly wage. Supposing a man earns £500 and his overall expenses and out-goings amount to £460 a week, then he has £40 left. The same should apply to football clubs. If the football club has overall turnover of £200 million a year and has outgoings of £180 million (including loans) then they should only be allowed to reinvest £20 million. Sorry to disappoint Manchester United fans should the FFP be applied correctly their £70 million a year interest repayments will be added to their overall outgoings. So if they make £230 million a year and their outgoings are £210 million, then they will only have £20 million surplus.
Its all pointless when city just go naming their own stadium and abramovich paying off everyone to 'sponsor' them and ****.
Exactly, Like Sheik Mansour, probably backhanded his cousin 400million and his cousin sponsors city with Etihad for its very fair "market value" of £400m . FFP will be a joke and will end up punishing lower league clubs. The chavs and cities of the world will get off scot free.
I don't think it will. The likes of Arsenal and us are mugs for thinking UEFA will actually do anything.
None of these are loans or do they involve the owners putting loads of cash into the clubs. This is regarded as generated income as sponsorship is. Manchester Citys owners used one of the companies they own to sponsor another. The only way that can be outlawed is if UEFA put a cap on the number of sponsors any club has, and the amount a club can be sponsored for. That can't happen, as it would break the current EC competition laws. As I've said, Manchester United fans who think their debt won't be included are in for a rude awakening.
United run at an operating profit so they'll be fine won't they? The rules will never challenge a club like them, or ourselves, Milan, Barca etc. They need the big clubs with their big fan numbers and viewing figures for the CL and the EL. On Garuda, I couldn't give a **** what they do as long as we get some $$$.
An in depth analysis of Liverpool FC and Anfield by an Indonesian travel company(translated by Google) Liverpool - Very prosper until the early 90's, Liverpool have stadiums so proud. Magnificent and very historic, Anfield being the stadium so the main goal when the British travelers. Unlike most big clubs in England who have a magnificent stadium, a large-sized, which is located in the center or outskirts of town. Anfield was in local settlements. Stadium-style 'old fashion' that stands majestically in the middle of residential areas, have a variety of historical objects around the club Liverpool FC, as well as fanatical supporters. If you are traveling to Liverpool, England, see how a row of houses and small restaurants surrounding Anfield. So no wonder discourse is always opposed to the expansion of the stadium because just by displacing the surrounding residents. Beside the Shankly Gate, or rather behind Pakir area, there is a vast wasteland called Stanley Park, which is scheduled to become new home for 'The Red' . If you look at it from the television, the football lovers probably know that Anfield is relatively old-fashioned, and it is how it is. Still owned by one of the best clubs in the UK, but to be recognized in terms of infrastructure or architecture Anfield still less than Arsenal's Emirates Stadium has, Etihad Stadium owned by Manchester City, Manchester United's Old Trafford cage, or even Chelsea's Stamford Bridge home. Still so one haunted and famous stadiums in the world, Anfield has long been no makeup face. Beginning with the small size of the press room for the size of the club, which will surely feel full when media crews face to face with Brendan Rodgers and his players after the game. however, still enters Anfield may have made ​​you feel like a Liverpool player who will compete as well as working hard on the field. Down the hall and then into the locker room to prepare for the match. historic Locker Room, it still only feels archaic as bench players are still made ​​of wood. Clothes players just hung by order of the position of the players, from the goalkeeper to the striker. In the middle there are two tables where the masseur doing his job to stretch the muscles of the players or the care of injured players. There is also a bathroom and a new door is a ploy concocted managers and so on. This new tack room built during Rafael Benitez coached the team in 2004 until 2010. less afdol feel if the Anfield not touch the famous sign over the hall to the player that reads: This Is Anfield. The sign is the demand of the legendary Liverpool manager Bill Shankly, aiming to intimidate opponents and suggests that will not be easy to conquer Liverpool at headquarters. Anfield One of the unique than any other stadium in the UK is the home team's bench and the visitors are adjacent in the one place. If the bench is usually a separate home and away, then at Anfield for the visitors will be invited to feel the euphoria and the atmosphere of the stadium was certainly aiming to give a little pressure on your opponent. What's more exciting than Anfield?Of course, the legendary stand called The Kop, where the "master" and the stadiums are always singing the chant or yell that made ​​goosebumps friend and foe alike. Unfortunately, Anfield like he was losing the awesomeness and magical power since last year. Liverpool often trouble at home and led to the worsening performance of the team that made ​​them only finish in eighth position last season. http://travel.detik.com/read/2012/0...ahnya-markas-si-merah-liverpool?991104topnews
I think there is some rule about related party transactions so that transactions with the related companpies will be valued at market value regardless of how much money changes hands. As for United, we will easily comply with the FFP rules as things stand currently but thanks for your concerns
You may well be able to comply with the rules, but you will have do so with one hand tied behind your back. Those interest repayments will bite a large chunk out of your transfer budget. Would it not be better to have no interest repayments? You're going to go from making a small overall profit to breaking even, and that is with a minimal transfer budget. Take off those rose tinted glasses and you'll see that once the FFP rules come in, other clubs will be able to pick fights with you and win.
Can this Garuda fella score 20 goals a season is all I want to know? I can't even find a youtube vid of him which is a worry
Of course being in debt isn't the optimal position for us but our club seems far from worried about it don't you think ? The problem is, for people wanting to see United fall flat, is that with the loop holes and expections you don't actually have to break even with all income and expeniture until 2018/19 - by which point at the current rate of repayment United will be just about debt free. Like I said our current position isn't as we may like it to be but United are far from worried about it Out of interest which other PL clubs do you think will be able to 'pick fights with us and win' ?