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Levy sacked Harry for this????

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by CockneySpur, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. CockneySpur

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    I know we are only 3 games in, but what I am seeing is shocking. No pace, no skill, no ideas.

    why take JD off for Thudd when at least playing two up top gives the opposition something to think about. The move invited Norwich forward an ultimately we were punished.

    Harry might have been a media whore - but at least under him we played with pace and style.
     
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  2. Boss

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    cockney, see the thread i created after the 1st game, rename your title Levy sacked Harry for this???? part 2 "...as its going to be a running theme.
     
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  3. Boss

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    we have gone from redknapp, modric & vdv, style, flair, exciting football to this rubbish.

    i appreciate Modric wanted to go but arry & vdv never wanted to leave, we have changed our style and approach for a system that is a backwards step.
     
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  4. NSIS

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    I didn't entirely disagree with Harry going. However, I was very much against the AVB appointment. I hoped that I would be proven wrong. But, so far, I still think that Levy is going to be left with a large amount of egg on his face over this!..
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    Van der Vaart did want to leave, Boss.
    He wanted to go back to his family.

    Not exactly an encouraging start, by any means, but Villas-Boas has been hamstrung by our transfer situation.
    We've lost Modric, van der Vaart and King, Kaboul and Parker have been injured and most of our new players are either ineligible, unfit, new to the league or all three.

    Awful way to begin a campaign and the manager's got a hell of a lot of work to do.
    We've got limited options up front and no natural playmaker, so he's in the **** at the moment.
     
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  6. Boss

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    VDV wouldn't have left if arry was still here, he was sold because he never fitted in with the managers plan and hamburg have been trying to sign him every year.

    Anyhow, as for the limited options and lack of playmaker, thats his problem for not addressing these areas, no one forces him to play defoe up top, with a lack of support and two dm's, thats his choice.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    We don't know if van der Vaart would've left or not. That's pure speculation, but he clearly did want to leave.

    The manager doesn't sign the players, so our lack of a playmaker's not his issue to address.
    We all know who he wanted, but he wasn't signed and neither was any alternative.
    That's down to the Chairman, for me, as is our lack of available options up top.
    Adebayor's clearly not match fit, so I'm not sure what else he could've done.
    We need to bring someone else in now, in my opinion.
     
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  8. superal

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    We had to watch **** football and results for about 4months last season and avb hasn't managed to address that in 3games with half our signings ineligable or unfit! Pathetic
     
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  9. District Line

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    Problem is with AVB's coaching, we had the same problems. Players are over-coached and less emphasis on stamina and fitness, as a result goals are conceded late in matches.

    Of the 4 goals Spurs have conceded, 3 of them have been in the last 10 minutes of the match. Staggering stat
     
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  10. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Hindsight's a wonderful thing.

    It made sense to take Defoe off but Livermore wasn't helping us close out the game and we looked nervous again.

    Overall we weren't good enough, too patient at times and at others going for very difficult passes and hoofing in desperation. When our new signings are up to speed I expect a lot better.
     
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  11. District Line

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    What I don't get is why AVB always reverts to 4-5-1 when leading 1-0 against lesser opposition?
     
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  12. Boss

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    Sorry PNP but that's just making excuses, as when AVB signed a contract and joined the club he would have been aware of the squad and what areas need addressing, so if his top target was mountinho and we never signed him, surley he would be attempting to play the same system as if he had mountinho, which means one dm and a deep creative player.

    So far he has opted for the negative approach.


    Also, he has said he is happy with 3 strikers, again, thats his decision, not levy.

    Also, its his decision to play defoe up top, two dm's and offer no support for defoe, as each time defoe gets the ball, he has to run away from goal as its too crowded for him, again thats down to avb and his tactics.

    He is dour, one dimensional, stubborn and gives crap interviews, not going to lie as I cant stand the guy and you may think some of us are being harsh but he has a big job in winning over most of the fans.
     
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  13. remembercolinlee

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    Harry was sacked because he was behaving appallingly.

    After spending months claiming that him being linked to the England job DID NOT unsettle the team he decided that spurs not re offering him a contract (that he turned down in Feb) WAS unsettling the team! And he did this publicly... while the chairman was at his mothers funeral.

    I liked Harry but understood why he was got rid off...I wish he had stayed but like I said I do understand it.

    The problem is AVB. In my opinion (I hope I'm wrong) he comes across as arrogant, overbearing and as an ego out of control. He acts like his in Jose M when he clearly isn't.

    I get players want to go ... Modric acted like a dick whereas Rafa acted with class ... but his treatment of Dawson is embarrassing and outragous...there was no need to make his lack of respect for him public.

    I think we are stuck with him as Levy and the board have stuck their necks out to far to be seen to back down and admit they've messed up and maybe this will give him and the team time to settle down. I have said from the beginning that I think we are in for more of what we got under Ramos (only without a cup) and have seen nothing to change my mind.

    WBA and Norwich deserved a MINIMUM of a point against us...we have not been unlucky ... just poor...with very good players ... not a good combination.

    I really hope I am wrong but...
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    Sorry Boss, but you're blaming him for things that he can't do anything about.
    Who else could he have picked alongside Defoe? The totally unfit Adebayor, who'd then be risking injury and longer out of the side?
    Who could he have picked in midfield? Jenas would've seen a lot of people up in arms and Huddlestone's nowhere near fit, having spent last season injured.

    Villas-Boas has said that he's happy with three strikers, but we don't have 3, in my opinion.
    We barely had 2 today and one of them can't play the lone role.

    I'm not excusing his mistakes, but he's fighting an uphill battle at the moment.
    Once the side's settled, then I'll lay the blame where it deserves to be laid, but he's been given a dodgy hand, so it's not entirely his fault how it's being played.
     
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  15. Boss

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    So i'm blaming him for being negative, yet you say he can't do anything about it? so why play two dm's at home, that is negative and yes he can do something about it.

    I never said he has to play someone alongside defoe, but there has to be support for the striker, which there wasn't, so again, how can you say he can't do anything about it?

    I'm not making any of this up! its there all to see.
     
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  16. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    [From the book of Levy]
    If its not broke then break it....
     
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  17. PowerSpurs

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    It was broke - didn't you watch us in the run-in last season? We were unlucky at times but Harry didn't know what to do.
     
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  18. The Mighty Thor

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    Under Ramos I felt confident that we would improve as the season progressed but this time I just feel total depression. I was listening to the match on the radio and every pundit said that we were bereft of ideas. I said before the season started that coaches bring their traditions with them and here we go again. Lacklustre stuff as with Chelsea. Now that's two draws on the trot and at home. I just hope and there is a faint glimmer of it that we don't lose after a couple of draws at this stage of the season.
    If AVB gets the push just who the hell comes in? This man won the double in Portugal in his first season and to me he's a one season wonder. Teams should have waited to see what he did in his second season before considering him. At the moment it looks like Levy has cocked up big time.
    Still,it's only a defeat to a penalty so far but that's the only bright spot for me.
    AVB,PLAY THE NEW PLAYERS STRAIGHT AWAY. Thank you Brad.
     
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  19. District Line

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    There is good reason as to why Harry was sacked. I can't/won't reveal on here but there are things the media/public don't know
     
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    ****'s sake, I thought this ITK bullshit would end with the transfer window. <grr>
     
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