Leak reveals Labour plan to focus on flag and patriotism to win back voters | Politics | The Guardian Do Labour not realise that millions of Labour core voters deserted the party because it was not patriotic? Patriotic working class voters and that is what millions are turned their backs on what was their party, because it is full of people who resent the Country and appear ashamed of it. The reaction of Clive Lewis MP tells it's own story, the one that loses elections ‘The Tory party has absorbed Ukip and now Labour appears to be absorbing the language and symbols of the Tory party.’" . The symbols he is referring to were the Union Jack and War memorials. Labour staffers described putting more police officers on the streets as dull. Tell that to people on estates blighted by crime. Safety is a human right.
Clive Lewis was the MP that blamed brexit on racism. the campaign had racism at its core. he pushes voters away from labour. i hope that there will be more than one party representing this Country in future but with MP like Clive Lewis about i doubt it.
Labour the party that is proven to be anti semitic to it's core and led by a weather vane leader, who has zero control of anything within the party, so much so that recently it elects another proven anti semite as it head of disputes Shamana Mahmood and supported by a newspaper with it's roots firmly planted in the anti abolition of American slavery by it's cotton mill owner.
He has marginalised elements of the left. I posted previously that Mr Starmer has a hell of a job moving the party towards common sense and away from ideology that ignores your average Joe. He cannot go out all blazing, it will be a gradual process to progress the party to a position where it again becomes serious opposition to the Tories. The next election is write off. No party has recovered from the disastrous position Labour are in after one election. What Labour must understand is that most people vote for the Party they think most represents them in general. The generals of the working class are family, community and Country not identity politics. Labour has to marry its party to its cosmopolitan voters and its traditional working class or to continue to be irrelevant in terms of leading the Country.
Mr Starmer is no better of a leader to what Corbyn was and it's shown over this last year. I think most people will have lots to moan about how the government has handled this pandemic, but with such poor opposition, such as the Labour party regarding Brexit, the pandemic and BLM. They only voice, looking to attract votes, nothing constructive IMO.... I don't see the Tories having zilch to worry about for the foreseeable future..
I am a 'floating voter' with absolutely no loyalty to any party, but I think you're being harsh on Starmer. I agree he doesn't come across as a 'natural born leader', but Starmer is far better (IMHO) than Corbyn, with his (Corbyn's) anti Semitic KGB sidekick bullies and Soviet-style politics. One thing that I like about him is that he comes over as being far more pragmatic than most politicians. Some may see that as a weakness, but as a voter I find it refreshing that he doesn't simply attack the Tories ALL the time, whether justified or not, simply because he is in opposition. All parties have their factions and unsavoury characters (look at that HORRIBLE worm Rees-Mogg in the Tory party for example) and the Labour party is no different. It's no coincidence that Labour was at its most popular when they moved more towards the right under Tony Blair and took a lot of the more moderate Tory votes away. It was the Iraq war that killed off New Labour - all the lies and cover-ups - and Robin Cook committing suicide - no democratic government could survive that. It's a shame, because before that Iraq war I voted Labour - and it's the only time in my life EVER that I felt 100% content with the party I voted for. As Cliftonville said, Starmer has a hell of a job on his hands. The Labour Party is FUNDED by the ultra-left unions and individual donors with a hard-left ideology, so he can't marginalise them too much or his party's funding will dry up (or he'll be overthrown). He needs to keep them sweet enough to keep the cash coming, but quiet enough so they don't put the normal people off voting for the party. The Labour party WILL recover - and I hope it does so quickly because a proper democracy NEEDS a healthy opposition to hold the government to account. Whether Starmer is the man to do it - who knows, but I don't agree that he's as bad as Corbyn 1for.
I do think that Starmer criticised everything the government has done through out this pandemic, although agreeing with most of the measures in place..You just know once measures are announced that Starmer is in there with his, "should have been done sooner, or quicker, more help, more money, there's no caution, just throw everything at it, bugger the consequences....but he knows that later down the line, he will be looking to pick up voters on the back of it...I find him more slimy & snidely than Corbyn , in fact I trust him less! Not too far down the line we have Lammy whom is only interested in what happens with the black community, nothing else comes out of his mouth..so much for helping the cause for integration amongst us.....more like how to create more tension within our society..... And one of the worst for attacking the government just for votes is Jonathan Ashworth....this guy is just a buffoon, with everything that splutters out of his mouth..
This is no surprise. How dare you call my absolute hero a horrible worm. I love how he tears every critic, from Starmer, Balaclava clad left wing nutters and Sturgeon, to shreds. He's fearless and totally on a different level. My hero. I guarantee you'd change your mind of him if you ever met him. He may not change your mind about policy but you'll end with a different view of the man.
By 'floating' I mean I am not aligned to one party regardless of policy. The 1970's Labour party isn't the same as the 1990s Labour. Same as the Conservatives. How anyone can 'align' to one party is beyond me; I've never had enough money to be 'blindly' Tory and I've never been unfortunate/downtrodden/angry/lazy enough to be 'blindly' Labour. I know people who vote the same way their parents did - for no reason other than that - and they deserve everything they get in my book. As for Rees-Mogg - He's a tax-evader and hypocrite of the highest order - an embarrassment to the Conservative party - so much so that he needed to be removed from a cabinet post as he was doing so much damage to the party's standing. Even Boris can't stand him, but hasn't got the balls to get rid of him. He's the ideological perfect mirror of Diane Abbott. You're right by the way; I don't know him personally and he might be a nice bloke............... in which case he REALLY needs to work on his PR and image.... and pay some bloody TAX
If you are left leaning and working class the Labour party did have those interests at its core. People with life experiences in work, union reps became MP's the party was the natural choice for decades. Blue collar Labour is no more. Labour became detached. The 1970's Labour party isn't the same as the 1990s Labour and the 2019 party certainly was not. The Labour party should progress as society does but it has taken its hegemony over working class voters for granted. In 2019 that lifetime alignment turned on the party and voted for the Tories. The 2019 election was an annihilation that was predictable.
Starmer has a hell of a lot of skeletons in his cupboard during his time as head of the CPS, like the Saville scandal and his interference in the Asian grooming gang scandal, where he tried to suppress the scandal and he decided that a girl in Rochdale who had a child fathered by the grooming gang leader when she was 13 years old was an unreliable witness, even though the police had DNA evidence proving it. And allegedly today had to be dragged away from a confrontation with Boris, he was angry that Boris said that during his time as labours Brexit minister he argued to stay within the EU's medicine policy, a policy that would have had the same consequences as the rest of the EU are suffering with regard to vaccines, god knows why he is angry about this it is a subject of record from 2017 onwards and also something repeated by his health spokesperson last year at the height of the pandemic.
I see that Stormer embarrassingly had to apologise for misleading parliament over his reply to Johnson, apparently he misheard the question, remind me not to ever employ him to defend me in court.
Starmer has a hell of a lot of skeletons in his cupboard ... He has it's true - and so do many politicians - Boris himself has a few. I suppose where I was going with this is that I could imagine sitting down for a pint with Starmer (or Boris) and having a reasonably good-natured 1-1 political debate, whereas I could NOT imagine wanting to spend ANY time with Corbyn at all. (Mind you, if the latest press rumour is to believed, I might end up being thumped by Starmer!! )
please log in to view this image I wonder if the likes of Lammy has anything to say about this? Will this help the cause for integration amongst us? So much for national pride, we have a man from the cloth that seems in my eyes in creating a divide with this sort of comment....But taking the knee for a drug dealer and criminal seems compulsory for the likes of the rest of us..
I love the christianity shown by yet another religious bigot, no wonder religion is dying. This man is a disgrace. He is employed by one of the richest most powerful land owners in the country but still get mugs to pay to repair their churches, where is their 33mil?
