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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    By Matt Law and Luke Edwards
    10:30PM BST 03 May 2015

    Goalkeeper fumes over Fabricio Coloccini’s contribution while head coach admits players may not be listening to the club captain
    Fabricio Coloccini could be stripped of the Newcastle United captaincy for the final three games of the season after being involved in a bust-up with goalkeeper Tim Krul following the humiliating defeat by Leicester City.

    John Carver has vowed to carry on as Newcastle head coach and is due to report for work as normal this morning following a series of meetings on Sunday, when it is understood that Steve McClaren was sounded out over taking charge immediately.

    Coloccini demands side 'wake up' after Leicester mauling

    While he is still in charge, Carver must try to arrest a run of eight consecutive defeats and one of his first tasks will be to decide whether or not Coloccini keeps the armband.

    It is understood that Coloccini and Krul were involved in a heated row on the bus that took Newcastle from Leicester City’s King Power Stadium to the airport for their flight back to the North East.


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    Krul was furious with the defending and lack of leadership from Coloccini, who was described as an “absolute disgrace” by the former Manchester United and Everton defender Phil Neville on Match of the Day.

    There is a feeling within the Newcastle staff that the team would benefit from a change of captaincy for the last three games – against West Bromwich Albion, Queens Park Rangers and West Ham United – in which they desperately need to secure at least one victory. Should Coloccini be stripped of the captaincy, then the midfielder Jack Colback would be among the favourites to take over as captain along with Krul.

    Carver was not involved in the bust‑up between Coloccini and Krul on the bus and decided to keep his thoughts to himself until he addresses the players again on Monday.

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    Newcastle fans show owner Mike Ashley the red card during Saturday's game

    Newcastle are two points above the relegation zone following their latest embarrassing defeat, but Carver will not quit and has received sympathy from board members over the performances and attitude of his some of his players.

    Carver has had a series of angry clashes with first-team players in recent weeks and is seething about the lack of effort in games from certain troublesome individuals. But performances have not improved and there is a real danger that Newcastle could tumble out of the top flight.

    A furious Carver even accused the centre-back Mike Williamson of deliberately getting sent off against Leicester, a charge that could easily have been thrown at Daryl Janmaat, who was also dismissed needlessly late in the game.

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    Carver claimed that Williamson had purposefully got himself sent off in the clash against Leicester City

    Williamson released a statement in which he denied he had deliberately got himself sent off. He also apologised to the club’s supporters and his team-mates, but not Carver. “I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to the Newcastle United supporters and my fellow team-mates for getting sent off during yesterday’s game,” Williamson said.

    “There was absolutely no intent to hurt Jamie [Vardy] or get sent off, but I recognise that I should have been more composed and measured in my determination to win the ball. Unfortunately, it did the one thing that I never wanted to do, and that was to hurt the team. Moving forward, I will do whatever I can to help my team-mates prepare for the next two games and fight to get back into the team when I’m next available.”

    McClaren is reluctant to take charge of a Newcastle team in a relegation battle. The former England manager is due to meet his Derby County employers and will not leave before those talks have taken place.

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    Steve McClaren's Derby missed out on the Championship play-offs on Saturday, finishing in eighth

    Speaking on Saturday after the 3-0 home defeat by Reading that cost Derby a play-off place, McClaren said: “Absolutely nothing has been agreed [with Newcastle]. I’m under contract here unless they say otherwise.”

    Carver is desperate to keep Newcastle up, but would also be prepared to work with McClaren if a change is made. “I’m not going anywhere until someone comes to me and tells me otherwise,” Carver said. “I’m not a shirker, and I’m not going to hide from anyone. I’m going to stand there and take it, because I have to. I have to admit there’s a chance they’re just not listening to me.

    “That might be one factor of many, and you have to consider it. You have to take it into account. But it might be a lot of other things – we might not be good enough, we might not have enough desire to want to defend in the box or score at the other end. There’s lot of factors, but I won’t deny that [the players not listening] could be one of them. All I will say is that the responses I’ve seen on the training ground don’t suggest that.






    The bit above I've highlighted and underlined is the bit I'm most concerned with.
     
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    George Caulkin has just tweeted that we sounded out McClaren earlier today but said it's unlikely he'll take charge for final 3 games.

    He also said should we stay up he's nailed on to get the job.

    I personally rate McClaren. I know Derby choked but their squad is very young. He had them playing good, attacking football for most of the season too.

    Bottom line is our players need to be hearing a new voice on the training ground if we're to stay up. If McClaren doesn't want it for the final three games then I'd be trying Redknapp,Hoddle or even bloody Vennables if it's only until the end of the season.
     
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  4. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    I've only watched a handful of our recent games - can't bring myself to watch more - but what I've seen Colo has been poor. The problem is if you strip him of the captaincy will he be worth playing? But if he doesn't play, who does??
     
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    They don't even need to sack carver if that is the stumbling block. Just move him out of the way for now.
     
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    For me Carver needs to go completely. He's lost the dressing room and admitted as much by stating the players probably aren't listening to him. He's become a cancer at the club.

    I've been glued to Twitter all day hoping to see an official club statement. I honestly believe a new manager is the only chance we have of staying up and even then our chances aren't great.
     
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    Sad thing is they were probably more likely fighting over seats on the bus than anything to do with the game. There was only the seat next to Carver left and neither of them wanted it. Colo's lack of pace is always exposed when running for the bus and Krul's inability to get down quick enough has always hindered him as well.
     
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    Hadn't thought about it but at least Colback would lead by example
     
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    take a look at a decent captain in terry , people may not like him but he does a good job ...always vocal , always leads the line ,questions the ref all the time ,,,think colo needs to have a hard look at himself as a captain material ... I see none of this ...
     
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    Anyone recall if Lascelles is available now Forest have no more games to play? If so we have another CB to replace this muppet. Him and Dummy at CB and Haidara at LB (or Raylor if not fit) and Anita and Abeid in midfield with Colback!

    We're Back!!!!
     
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    I agree that he needs to go. All I meant was that if they are worried about his pay off then don't use it as an excuse not to get someone else in. Any sort of input other than Carver would be better than just Carver.
     
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    Apparently colo has said he doesn't want to play for us again.

    This sounds like BS to me but thought I'd share.
     
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    Right now our club is like the poo stick from school in that no one dare touch it.
    A redknapp type will look and think 'i don't wanna be the guy who takes em down'.
     
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    I can well believe it. He is a **** if the highest order.
     
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    Just sounds like a bit of media **** stirring to me but we shall see. You'd have thought there would be some heated exchanges, anyone who has played football knows teammates fall out when you have bad games, not the end of the world. I think McClaren will have a nightmare here but he'd be as good as we would get.
     
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    I don't think McClaren is a top notch manager. really don't .waste of time in my eyes and again who would want to work under fatso
     
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    Not allowed Lascelles back until end of play off's. That was the deal apparently. Dummet looks out for WBA game but it gets worse. There appears to be a big altercation at the training ground this morning and Charnley now also there. Hope it's to give Carver his marching orders.
     
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