Off Topic Jihadi fighters and Brides !

ISIS seems to have lost the plot, some British went to fight for ISIS and also took their brides also.
Most of them would like to come back to Britain.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47237051

 

I voted "yes" but I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences.

If they can be linked to breaking the law, or if they fought against Britain in any way, they should be held accountable.

They should also be monitored regulary and not be expected privacy from government investigations into their activities.


I don't think you should kick people out as that makes people more determined to do wrong. This needs to be handled fairly... But fair includes consequences for actions.

 

TBh I can't tell from the story as reported.

The person in the news today came off as a person i wouldn't let within 50miles of my house or family.

I don't know what questions she was asked or roads she was led down to talk about severed heads and enemies of allah and that.

The person in the news is not reported as being a murderer or stuff. she applied to be a child bride of an IS hero. she was married off and went to live in this utopia dreamland. Now she wants back in for sake of her child apparently, cos now they surrendered and are in a camp of some sort its not as nice as the place where she was with severed heads and stuff going on.... apparently

So:

a) her parents need to be questioned as to how a child, and she was a child, could be so manipulated into thinking where she was was so awful and how where she went to was better.

b) she needs to be questioned as to why did took the decision to fly to wherever and cross another border and become a child bride.

c) she seems on the face of it (and could have been manipulated to say it) unrepentant for what are war crimes committed in her presence and thinks its all fine.

In short... she seems to have talked herself out of being repatriated there. It could have been very manipulative journalism but equally she could be a right piece of work

The danger is painting all with the same brush. Each case is different and the asylum seeker who fled fighting should not be tarred with the same brush. All are individuals.

 

Personally i say no.

Not because im racist or some ****e like that.

Because they will be a security risk to this country when or if they return which means they will need monitoring all the time?

Thats not going to be free is it. Exactly. So why the **** should i pay more council tax to protect or have someone under survelance i never asked for in the first place.

Saying goes, made your bed now ****ing lie in it. Just like coutinho

 

Not sure its the parents fault. Some kids just go off the rails. Sounds like she went with her mates

Anyway i agree she shouldnt be allowed back in. Shes not even repentant from the sounds lf things which makes it all the worse.

 

We will have to as per the Geneva convention...

But ... personally nope. . Went voluntarily, and shows no remorse for going. As far as I'm concerned they migrated and became a citizen of another country... They can stay in it..

I mean take this particular bastard. She'll come back with her kid .... straight on to benefits as she's unemployable ... so will sit on her arse and be paid by us to raise the next Jihadist....

She's lucky we don't drone her arse.

 

That doesn't make them no longer a British citizen, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the UK is one of the countries where there is no active way to renounce your citizenship.

Now, if they broke laws, or actively fought or plotted against the country (and that can be proven), then they could be arrested and/or charged with treason.

 

First of all you've got to remember this is a BBC story so we're someway into hyper-liberal, snowflake-ville here ... why is this even a front page story ? Some would say it's part of the mainstream media's aggressive promotion of a destructive form of multiculturalism and Islamophile tendencies. I'm not saying I support that idea but just we should question these kind of narratives, the framing, circulation and placement. I'm all for multi-cultural society and (sensible levels of) immigration, but only one that is based around acceptance of the democratic and cultural values of whatever nation is concerned.

Personally I think it comes to down to if she went there voluntarily and in full knowledge of what she'd be involved in and wanted that, and of course whether she hoped to participate in jihad in some way. Seems to me like it's not worked out for her since IS were put down in the area she went to and now she's sort of changing her tune for her own ends. If this is the case then she can just enjoy the burned out, wasted hospitals over there and see if she can put a cot together out of bits of exploded scrap metal. I just hope whatever scant resources they have over there are directed towards good, innocent people who need them rather than those like her who will apparently fly across a continent to aid the maiming and persecution of her own ethnic group, if that's what she was set on.

I know that's harsh and I want to have sympathy for her because her life is a total disaster zone, a waste and just sad ... If she left thinking she was getting a better life/world and with no involvement with IS and got dragged into it through whatever kinds of pressure then I do have sympathy, but she needs to be properly vetted to ensure she's not been indoctrinated or radicalised in any way and the UK of course needs to exert high caution.

Ultimately it's all pretty horrible.

 

Je suis Parisien

 

That will cheer rhc up

 

A pleasure

 

Think you can voluntarily renounce citizenship. You can't have it taken from you by the state.

Hence my first sentence... it's against the Geneva convention to make a person "countryless"

The rest is what I would wish.

This is the problem with the modern age though... before, country vs country... declare war... then if you aided the enemy ... treason....

Now you're not fighting countries no matter what they name themselves...so the old approach doesn't work.

Don't want her back and put in jail either.... more ****ing taxpayers money wasted on someone who hates our society.

Tell her we'll take her kid and care for it if she puts a bullet in her own head. .... Sorted.

 

I agree with most of what's been said. You have to be wary of how the journalist is presenting this, but the woman seems unrepentant and still to be an Isis sympathiser. As their avowed intention is to bring down all enemies of their ideology then there is a serious risk that she could be involved in terrorist activities, and would bring her son up to be an enemy of his own country.
I have never been opposed to immigration at a reasonable level, but I do think that immigrants are required to at least have sympathy towards, and respect for, the culture and ethics of the country they join. The ghetto mentality is, imo, detrimental to society as a whole. The idea of living in a country that you'd like to see brought down is bizarre, unless you see yourself as an active fifth columnist, in which case, why would the host country even entertain the idea of accepting you?

 

**** you

 

FFS

 

I never knew Coutinho supported ISIS, now am happy we got shut of him.

 

For Shamima Begum to say that she have no regrets of her action is an insult on those who lost their lives or injured as a result of terrorist actions in this country.
I remember the London underground attacks on 7th July 2005. My cousin missed one the Lines that was attacked by luck , she was rushing to get in into the train when the door closed. I was at work, because I knew she usually travelled by one of the lines involved I started ringing her mobile number I was unable to get through. Miss Shamima Begum has insulted law abiding citizens in Britain.
She wants British people to show her compassion, she is not showing compassion to the British people. Very difficult to say, she made her bed and she must be ready to lie on it.

 

she can **** right off,

what's pissing me off is the ****ing politicians entertaining the idea, cretins!!!

 

Why on Earth does he support them?

 

because he is a judas