http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-rooney-rule-is-just-patronising-9432038.html Tough guy, uncompromising opponent and I so wish you make it. Prefer to see him on our ty screens rather than Rio X.
Why is he a breath of fresh air? Isn't he saying similar to Barnes about black managers '' If a lot of black managers are applying and not getting jobs then there is a problem, but I don’t know if they are. ''
No. He's saying that a quota would be ridiculous and he's challenging the misconception that there's dozens of pro licence qualified coaches who are supposedly missing out because of their skin colour
That's his view. It is not universal. Rooney's rules had a place in that point in time. Maybe things have improved so much that they are not needed anymore but to dismiss these rules as some conspiracy to favour one race over another is just too simplistic. This is much bigger than football. You are entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to theirs.
On this topic I think it just needs to be given time. A lot of current managers at the top spent their playing careers in a time where racism was every where in football. A lot of black players were probably put off or thought they had no chance. But we have come a long way since then and things have greatly improved. Today's generation of players will have a much better foundation to start a management career on. This country has come a long way. But patience is needed.
I find it odd when people say there are no black managers despite 30% of players playing are black... Yes, but they're playing, they're not going to just stop playing in their prime to give management a go! The age of most managers is say late 40's/early 50's So go back 30 years when those managers would be playing and you're talking about the 80's. Then look at how many black players were playing at the ratio between players and managers wouldn't be quite so big. Yes, it still isn't ideal but as has been pointed out, maybe those playing at that time decided they didn't want to continue where racism did exist. times have changed and in 20/30 years time when you get the current crop of players entering a time when they're wanting to become managers and I'm sure you'd get a few more. This "rooney's rule" has good intentions but why not take it a step further. Why not make 1 woman have to be interviewed as well, or 1 person with a disability? If you're going to go equal ops, you can't pick and chose which ones you want. You either go all in or not at all.
1. english players, whatever color are so arrogant they like say david platt think they can waltz into any job without qualifications... in other countries they are laughed out of town... there are enough players of various ethnic origins to now be qualified isn't there... so how many bothered their arses... did john barnes? he tried at a couple clubs but it looked half hearted to me. the education is vital. look at rodgers who's made lots of errors but he look how many years, 10, 15? to get really qualified to do the job. I can say john barnes but tony adams is as bad as well. 2. I think frankly those who think there's an issue are right anyway. there of course is an issue. it will be even more pronounced in other countries, i mean look at holland and the amount of players they made in the 90s... managers??? where are they? 3. the issue is bigger than football and thats a big problem... finally... oh i dunno perhaps just perhaps someone like sterling smashing a hat trick i nthe world cup final might create a big enough hero for this to be changed... who knows
I just don't see Hasselbaink saying anything different. According to the Black and Asian Coaching Association only 4.8% of England's Uefa B licence coaches or higher are from black and minority ethnic backgrounds. If you look at how many black managers there are, percentage wise it's probably an accurate reflection. Comparing how many black players with how many black managers is looking in the wrong direction. Racism exists in all areas of society, to expect it not to be present in football / management is short sighted.
The superficiality of some of the fans on here amazes me. The Rooney rules were intended to redress an obvious racial discrimination in recruitment. To say that it is a case of either go all in or not at all is nonsense. What do they say: one step at a time, eh? This board is full of people having a go at efforts to combat racism. It is better to have tried and failed rather than giving up and not doing anything at all.
But why stop with black managers? What about those from Asian decent? Like I say, good intentions, but interviewing for the sake of interviewing isn't going to combat anything. If people in recruitment really are racist and making decision on that basis, all that's going to happen is that someone is interviewed and then still don't get the job.
Bloody hell! Do you not know that in discussing issues related to race, Asian, other black ethnic groups, mixed, and other non-white groups are all categorised as 'black'
Sorry but from a recruitment EEO point of view that comment is completely and utterly wrong. If when filling in an application form you gave the options of "white" or "black (which covers everything else)" then you'd be in trouble.
That maybe the case on employment forms which go into detail about ethnicity. But when race issues are discussed, there are two groups: white and non-white which are all labeled as "black".
Not exactly Carl mate, the link shows a British Census form and categories that are deemed individual as in British racial law. http://britologywatch.wordpress.com/category/ethnic-categories-in-uk-census/ As you can see black and Asian are completely different racial groups.
