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JENKINS FAILURE AT DOF

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  1. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    He has cost us with so much bad transfer dealings over the last 3 seasons, not too mention his tightness, lack of ambition, and now we can add the issue of the Yanks to it all. The bottom line is this squad no longer has any quality to it, you cannot even paper over the cracks anymore, it's so obvious that we lack any quality to speak of, there's no place to hide from this sorry state, I don't think that even January transfer window can save us.

    Clement is a dead man walking, and clearly has nothing more to give but surely Huw Jenkins should be sacked, because he is the one that has undermined the squad selling our best players and replacing them with utter dross, I think we are clean out of luck this season, as so should Big Nose be. I hope that the Yanks get shot of him sell the club to recoup their money, and we get our club back.............<ok>
     
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    Jenkins should have been kicked out of the Club the same day he sacked Michael Laudrup <ok>
     
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    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Trouble is he's still here!..................:emoticon-0130-devil
     
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    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Choice of manager has been more important.
    Since Monk, Guidolin has been the only one who has known what he's doing. Shocking way to treat a man. We probably would never have hit the heights but we would have been more enjoyable to watch and somewhat more secure.
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I would have done it before the Laudrup sacking .
     
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  6. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Jenkins won't go anywhere as long as the yanks are here he is making too much money for himself and them.....I'm telling you we need Relegation before something will happen, Losing the £100m + every season will hurt jenkins and the yanks badly and with very little to sell on the players front they wont be here long after that and maybe we can get rid of Jenkins and get our club back and start rebuilding the club to return to the premiership in a couple of seasons......We must do something or this nightmare will not end as we are being bled dry...My opinion only...
     
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  7. FrankfurterBlue

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    Jenkins chucked you guys under the bus when he sold out his small investment for a pocketful of cash to the yanks. Since then, he has kept a nice little earner going for himself.. but he is untouchable, in my opinion. I don't know who made those fantastic buys you had for a time when you bought cheap, they developed and then you sold on but, presumably it was not Jinks. But it was those transfer profits that have kept you afloat and compensated for the losses on operations. That skill seems to have gone and losses are creating financial pressure on the club that they seem to be trying to solve with player sales like Lorrente and the other bloke to Everton. I'm still can't see where the yanks are generating enough cash to pay themselves out..... and that can inly come from profits and the subsequent dividends. They can pay themselves loans but they will need repayment on sale or liquidation. Can't help thinking Jinks pulled a fast one promising the yanks dollops of profit when they took you to the 'next level'. Based on what the yanks have brought to the club, Jinks could have taken you there.... but without the personal gain he has made!!!!!
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Bang on!! Jenkins and his cohorts have screwed us all, when eventual relegation happens, They will be still happy with all the Yankee dollar in their bank accounts, it’s us fans that will end up the worse off.
     
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  9. seabreeze

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    We made a huge direction change when Jenkins became part of the problem and not the solution anymore after he chased Laudrup's agent out of town IMO . Whether it was right or wrong is not the point , only that the change happened . It all became about personal wealth possibilities , secrecy and total control .
    Jenkins started under minding Laudrup from that point , coming out in the media with things like buying Bony was to much money and wasn't " The Swansea Way " of doing things .( turned around and spent 7 million on Fernandez in Monks first season in charge of an entire season , signed Gomez for guaranteed money . If 12 million was to much for a striker , 7 million was to much for a defender ) . Good managers were always brought in with the ability to run things the way they wanted until Jenkins inserted Monk . It was all about total control of managers since . Guidolin won 2 games in his first 9 games , all competitions then got sacked . Monk won 1 game in his first 10 games all competitions and was able to keep going because he was " Jenkins pet project . The onlt thing that saved us from relegation that season was the 18th place team having 33 points and Monk doing well his last few games against teams that had no pressing concerns over relegation or European spot . From keeping secrets about the sale of the team from the trust to the Vorm deal , everything was a secret .
     
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  10. DragonPhilljack

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    Since we have been in the PL we have received over £600m in Revenue (Conservative estimate), not to have been able to have advanced both financially and positionally from that income source is a gross neglect and outright disgrace. We have completely lost our sense of direction and philosophy. Originally it was to aim for the PL, once achieved this deteriorated to running the club to make personal financial gains for the very people who were supposedly the club saviours? to say our boardroom is rotten, is an understatement, the focus is now on the cash cow, and the football and squad a by product, which we now see every week on the pitch.

    From here on in, it can only be down hill, these so-called 'investors' of Judas Jenkins, have not put any investment into the club whatsoever, they have simply purchased shares, and a controlling interest in the club. I have to say that the supporters trust has been very ineffective in all this, even when they had a strong case for legal redress, they took the cowards way out, our only resolve now lies in relegation of all things, that will cause an earthquake in the crooked boardroom, and the rats should default to type and hopefully jump ship.................<ok>
     
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    But you're not a cash cow. Cash cows are profitable with little investment needed. You need to invest well(and profit from it) just to break even. Your income is more than matched by your expenditure. Some of that is a low fan base (relative to your opponents) and small capacity. But a lot of it is wages. ....and that cannot be avoided.
     
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    FB - my interpretation of what Phil was saying is that the Yanks are focussing on trying to create a cash cow/turn it into a cash cow.

    There has been little or no (net) investment and the Yanks are seeking to maximise value prior to exit - which may be sooner than we think.
     
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    We have always been run profitably, even when we had a very good squad, profits were modest, because we didn't cash in our best players back then, now we turnover players at rate of knots that is hard to keep up with, this is fueled by wanting to make large profits quickly, the problem with this is that it has been undone to some extent by very poor transfers in over the last 3 seasons, Gomis, Baston. Mesa, Tabanau, Eda, etc.

    The sale of Williams, Siggy, Lorrente, Cork, this last 12 months, amounts to £85 Million add to that the TV rights and other comercial interests of £140 Million, then in just one 12 month period the club had in excess of £225 Million, if you take away what we have spent there is a substantial pot that has disappeared somewhere.

    Just before the Yanks landed, our Boardroom took their salaries from £250,000 to £500,000 a 100% increase, that's not to mention creative accounting in 'consultancy fees' there has also been a substantial increase in staffing levels, though that might well be justifled, but the picture that one gets from all this, and there's lots more I could add, is that we are indeed a cash cow for the bent and crooked boardroom, I can't see it no other way, it is also confirmed in the criminal way they fraudulently deprived the trust of the value of it's share holding in the take over.

    Scum we have running this club now and Jenkins and Morgan are the biggest Scum of them all......... <ok>
     
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    The yanks working with Jenkins have cut our wage bill significantly and to be honest it was very high, But they have gone to far by selling off our highest earners who happen to be our best players....
     
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    Huw walks up to one of the trust big shots and says " Hey , how are you . Listen , sorry about all those secret meetings with the Americans without your knowledge all that time . We have a bit of a problem though as were about to fill our pockets with money , we overlooked something so would sign this waiver ......How's the wife "
     
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    "It will be a relegation battle again this season, 100%." - John Harstson

    Hartson says the club made a mistake in re-signing striker Wilfried Bony and believes another summer recruit Renato Sanches, is not fit enough. He also claims the club did not need to sign Roque Mesa. "It is going to be a long season and they are going to be down there again," Hartson told BBC Sport Wales. Hartson made clear that he thinks the Swans' predicament is of their own making after a disappointing summer.


    Tell us something we didn't already know john!......................<cheers>
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    And whens the last time you seen a majority owner or chairman in the Premier ( in this case both ) hop on a plane and cross the Atlantic Ocean and equator to interview a possible new manager . I guarantee Morgan and Jenkins had more than one meeting in South America , with representatives of the Americans . They were both in panic as Monk was shown the door and all that money from the sale they were going to make was at risk .
     
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    Hartson is spot on and he is not the only professional pundit to say the same.......The sooner the better i say as nothing will change while we are in the premiership...
     
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    It won't be easy getting shot of these Yanks, other than a slide down the leagues, the sellouts have really stuffed the club good and proper, on the back of a lie, motivated by greed, and they still get to hang around on an earner, one word, SCUM!...............<ok>
     
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